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[–] Pronell@lemmy.world 54 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

And people mocked Jack Black for canceling his tour.

You can't put on a good performance while also putting your audience in danger.

These people need to be locked the fuck up for death threats. It's very, very simple.

[–] OsaErisXero@kbin.run 28 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Because kowtowing to the American Nazi Party is obviously the right solution

[–] Pronell@lemmy.world 34 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This is just so glib.

I mean I get your point. I even back you to a degree.

But you're calling out a popular entertainer for not wanting to put on a show - which requires a support staff, venue, and audience - while now having to think what nut might be in the audience waiting to take a shot.

MAYBE this shit is already stressful enough for Jack without worrying about everyone around him and how that extra stress will undermine their performances as they do this shit night after night for the entire tour.

But no, tell him he must go on. It doesn't cost you shit. You don't have to live with the stress of it all.

[–] OsaErisXero@kbin.run 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yea, I get it, but this shit is exactly what gives these people power, and emboldens them to continue to do it to others, both more and bigger. It got to this point specifically because the people who can stand up to it chose not to, and so now if you so much as make a comment about these fucks in an attributable space it's expected that they'll make credible death threats and bomb threats, maybe even blow up a building, who knows. And it's your fault for saying it, because I mean look at the way you were talking. Practically asking to be murdered.

Fuck that.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 months ago

I'm not saying you're incorrect, but it's easy to be principled when it's someone else in the cross-hairs.

Victim blaming is wrong, but boisterously inviting danger is stupid.

[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Because kowtowing to the American Nazi Party is obviously the right solution

This is what people say when it's not them being targetted. United States Congresspeople refused to convict Trump. Cities had to beef up security when announcements about his trials happened. This isn't your average joe. This is a man with unlimited resources at his disposal, millions of lone wolves willing to do his bidding, including committing acts of violence, and a national megaphone to call them to action.

But hey, you do you. I'm sure that when you become the target of the Trump Hate Machine, you can show all of us how to handle daily death threats, family members being targeted, losing your job, and maybe having your home broken into and getting hit in the head with a hammer. Or having to go into hiding. Go ahead, I'll wait. Let me know how random citizens are supposed to handle that. I'm sure Ruby Freeman and Shea Moss would like to know too.

In case you haven't been paying attention lately, I'll clue you in on something: MAGA morons have no problems using violence to get their way. And it's very possible any attempt at retribution could include something happening at one of his shows. And if there are credible threats being made to him or his band, continuing the tour just tells his would-be assaulters where he is every day. It would be practically suicide.

[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 4 months ago

You're speaking as if minorities aren't already at risk of being victims of hate crimes by the right?

[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Careful there buddy, without the /s we aren't sure if you were addressing the RNC.

[–] No_Money_Just_Change 12 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I don't care about the cancelation of the tour, but him saying he iced all projects with Kyle does not sit right with me

If they were friends like Jack claims, he would say something like: "I know him very well. It was a joke in poor taste, but it was only a stupid joke in the spur of the moment. " instead of distancing himself from the heat

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Jack also has a pretty active acting career that Kyle doesn't. So it makes sense that publicly he'd want to distance himself as much as possible, at least for now.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world -2 points 4 months ago

He's got kids I don't think Kyle does. Gotta do what you have to so crazies don't lash out at you or yours. Kyle knows this.