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The first pinned post can be found here:

https://lemmy.world/post/17530961

That's where all the engagement and comments can be found, and I'd encourage everyone to participate there.

The reason for THIS post is to direct everyone there.

I'm getting multiple reports that some people can't see it for some reason. Could be Federation, could be they blocked the user who posted it.

Here's hoping you all can see THIS one and move over to where everyone else is engaged.

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[–] ThePyroPython@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago (3 children)

That's it.

It's either a trump election win and civil war from him dismantling one too many of the elements of US government.

Or trump looses the election, incites a civil war, and the craziest actually do it.

Either way, as this even proves: Get. Your. Guns. Whilst you still can.

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Why would Trump losing incite civil war? Who is going to take any weapons from anyone? Who is going to enforce the law? They aren't going to fight themselves. They want a civil war and they want the Dems to just make one mistake to cause it.

There is no way to say that there will be that many of them. There will be a few. But nothing on a scale of civil war. That's some dumb neck beard fantasy. If the Dems win it will be ok. Until the next 4 years.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Trump losing would throw the "stolen election" nonsense into overdrive. Hence the civil war.

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I hear that. But who is going to enforce it? The cops? The army? I don't see that happening. They would attack themselves.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Every fascist movement has its paramilitary. Hitler had his Brownshirts, Mussolini had his Blackshirts, and Trump has his Redhats.

[–] maniii@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Please dont involve Redhat in this mess.

These ae Crimson Caps.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sorry, but IBM bought it so it's evil now. I don't make the rules.

spoiler


(Whether I'm still talking about WWII or more recent shit IBM did is left as an exercise for the reader.)

[–] maniii@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

IBM stopped being relevant since the PC days. The moment the IBM exec who claimed that the market has in-demand for only "5-Mini computers", IBM lost the plot a long long time ago.

Right now, IBM is mostly a holding corp. THey buy stuff, destroy it, and buy more stuff. Most of IBM innovations and engineers have moved on to other companies. IBM have zero or close-to-zero amount of real tech or IP. Most of it is just fluff and overblown BS.

Redhat was already attempting being "like IBM" even before the buyout. But a lot of IBM techs were transferred over to Redhat.

Redhat or IBM is just the lesser of evils. It is like blaming the Abacus maker or the calculator maker for the Nuclear Bomb.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It wouldn't be the cops or the army, it would be his Proud Boys aligned supporters, a la the attempt to kidnap the governor of Michigan.

[–] maniii@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I dont know if you know, the CIA did a infiltration of a local dad group. Funded them with CIA money to buy guns, ammo, the entire op, planted themselves inside, pushed ideas by asking leading hypothetical questions, coerced them to act in certain suspicious ways.

CIA are the worst thing that 'Muricans have as an agency. Instead of "keep 'Murica safe" they do these BS things which they did all over the world to destabilize legitimate govts.

I wouldnt put it past the cIA to have "setup" a deranged individual with ideas to go do stuff at a rally.

[–] oopy_soup@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What in the fuck are you on? Do you have any sources for this claim?

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Not the CIA, they can't operate inside the United States, but yes, the FBI does radicalization exercises like this quite often:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Portland_car_bomb_plot

https://www.justice.gov/nsd/pr/convicted-bomb-plotter-sentenced-30-years

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Not the CIA, they can't operate inside the United States, but yes, the FBI does radicalization exercises like this quite often:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Portland_car_bomb_plot

https://www.justice.gov/nsd/pr/convicted-bomb-plotter-sentenced-30-years

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The proud boys are in jail. Their leaders are in shambles after January 6th.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

A few are, yes, not nearly enough of them.

[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Right, because that’s totally what happened last time

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

It really was close last time.

You look at the fake electors scheme, the attempt to kidnap the governor of Michigan, and January 6th... those are all opening shots in a civil war.

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

You will find that civil wars in a digitalized surveillance state are very short lived and that the masses don‘t actually hold all that much power apart from the few things they‘re legally allowed to do. So unless tens of millions just stop showing up to work across the country, I don‘t see how the citizens have any leverage whatsoever once the election is over.

[–] hal_5700X@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

Okay, Tim Pool. Whatever you say.