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Sounds like capitalism apologist logic to me.
How many commercial technical failures and logistic failures is adequate for you? They are in this position because NASA (A public space agency) determined that Starliner -(a private craft) wasn't safe to use as a return vehicle
Why hasn't NASA just sent a NASA vehicle to receive them?
I bet they would had the Obama administration not moved to privatize spaceflight -Did you miss the part I said about capitalism and privatized space flight in an earlier comment?
Ah yes, the Ares I Crew Launch Vehicle. NASA's plan was to put the Orion spacecraft on top of a Space Shuttle SRB. The projected development costs were $40 billion in 2009 and it was anticipated to cost about $1 billion per flight beyond that. Despite continued development, to this day, Orion still hasn't flown a crew. An SRB was what killed the 7 crew aboard the Challenger.
This was a pretty dumb idea, driven primarily by wanting to keep funding going to the same districts as in the Shuttle era. No one misses that system.
Thinking that wasn't capitalism is ridiculous - NASA designed the system and gave aerospace contractors (read - Boeing) a blank cheque to build it. The contractors of course used that money to lobby congress to spend even more money. Did you miss that part?
Maybe fewer or equal than there were with government run NASA? Starliner turned out to be a safe spacecraft that was recalled due to abundance of caution. Which leaders at NASA were far more comfortable doing, since it reflects badly on Boing instead of them (which is a good thing).
On the other hand, while NASA run the launches itself, how many astronauts died in disasters?
You are seriously going to pretend one issue is somehow a failure of privatized spaceflight? A nonfatal issue that caused two astronauts to chill on the space station for longer than expected, most of it voluntarily?
Nuance isn't allowed here on lemmy. You will hate capitalism or you will be silenced. You will hate privatization, or you will be ostracized.
I thought that was Reddits thing. Is that just an American thing in general?