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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 178 points 2 weeks ago (55 children)

I honestly don't know if Americans have what it takes to change the path we're headed down. I haven't really got much faith left in our society. We're pretty pathetic.

Hope I'm wrong.

[–] DarkGamer@fedia.io 69 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

With all the uneducated, divisive disinformation, and faith-based worldviews out there it's hard to even get people to agree that a problem exists, and therefore even harder to convince the electorate how to appropriately address it. Public medicine would fix this problem like it has in the rest of the world yet still many Americans believe it's Marxism for some stupid reason.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 weeks ago

Public medicine would fix this problem like it has in the rest of the world yet still many Americans believe it's Marxism ~~for some stupid reason.~~

…because a group of politicians who need campaign funding to stay elected tell them “government bad” at every opportunity.

There is one party to blame here. Republicans. They made up the death panels bullshit. They made it so Lieberman could filibuster for the big insurance companies and keep them rich. They made it a goal to “own the libs.”

Democrats deserve criticism for their Neo Liberal bullshit too, but this wouldn’t have been pushed this far without the Republican propaganda and lies.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

I think at this point it's clear that there are problems to most people. The difficulty is more about agreeing on a) what the problems are and b) why they are problems, and c) how to fix them.

With the added difficulty that a decent portion of people have taken the "it's hard to prove anything definitively" stance and for some reason decided that means they should believe alternative sources rather than the more logical "be skeptical of everything but also be rational about it". If someone is able to get disinformation into official sources, they'll have an even easier time getting it into alternative sources.

The enemy of your enemy is not necessarily your friend.

[–] jared@mander.xyz 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

All we can do it keep moving forward and try to take care of each other as we go.

[–] murmelade@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

By donating to each others GoFundMes for hospital bills.

[–] where_am_i@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Are you shooting down CEOs? No? Then you're part of the problem with being pathetically weak.

[–] pachrist@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Friendly reminder that killing CEOs isn't the only answer. Sometimes it's throwing tea in a harbor. Or tarring and feathering a tax collector.

Just do your part.

[–] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Those lead to violence though

[–] where_am_i@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 weeks ago

All those things are from a past where democracy wasn't a thing and indeed you needed to uprise to an oppressive power.

This is still the case for the majority of the planet.

It is not the case in the developed nations. And even in the US Trump has won the popular vote.

You feathering a tax collector is an act against the will of the majority. This is not a revolutionary act, because you're not acting brave and sacrificing yourself to voice a majority's opinion.

Contrary, your actions are radical activism. You represent a minority, and yet you so firmly believe in your own righteousness that you justify violence.

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