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Is it bots? Are those humans whos mission is to cause chaos? Is the weird behaviour caused by the creation of the concept of lemmy?

Somebody please explain to me wtf is going on.

They answer destructive comments, assuming shit, demanding shit. Are they trolls?

Are they being paid for causing chaos? It’s insane

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[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I think the few experiences by trolls here from other communities is more of a walled garden thing, and if world has a more inclusive mix this would solve a lot of issues .

You say be more inclusive of tankies and I say learn about the paradox of tolerance.

[–] actually@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

It’s not wall to wall tankees , this is only a minority. Which for the non tanker, can be avoided and ignored.

I was talking more of a general problem by deciding what I wanted to censor myself rather than letting others do it for me. Baby and bath water analogy and all that.

And this extends way beyond tankees and piracy.

And since people are talking about hexbear, it does have the best Syrian news coverage

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 8 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

If you call out genocide denialism you get banned. That's enough for me to consider it wall to wall tankies

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yep. If you have nine tankies sitting at a table and a person joins them you have 10 tankies sitting at the table. It works the same as it does for fascists.

It's like saying that there we're good people in Nazi germany. Therefore we should have tolerated Hitler. Why?

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 5 points 3 weeks ago

insert cutesy pic of young Stalin

[–] actually@lemmy.world -3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If you call out genocide denialism you get banned.

Which is the reason I stopped participating in some of world’s news and political communities, but because of a different genocide.

But I certainly did not go running to a community that promoted denial of other crimes. Instead I use the power of lemmy to pick and chose healthy communities.

Each instance has communities which are toxic.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That's true in general.

Indeed I've witnessed Palestine denial on .world, but I'd hardly call it the prevailing sentiment on any mainstream comm there. Each time the comment would be ratioed and loudly disagreed with, which is encouraging.

I will acknowledge that .world mods have some serious pet projects and issues which is very concerning.

[–] actually@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

It’s something that is sporadically done, by some people based on the phase of the moon or what they feel like; but it’s tolerated by the other mods.

One does not see it much unless it happens to oneself or it’s read about elsewhere. However it certainly has an effect and perhaps is one of the reasons there are cycles of low engagement ( or at least lower than normal). Often people like me who have issues with it just quietly go elsewhere, which I more or less done.

But once I moved away, choosing a non political server as my new home, I was exposed to all the communities world blocks, and it was then I realized I had been censored

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

I feel the same but ive given up on Lemmy. Probably need to find another platform for more grown up discussions.

Even reddit is far better. Hate to say it but it's true.

[–] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Tell us if you find a better alternative.

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You won't

Its a people problem, not a platform problem.

[–] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I know. But there are different platforms catering to different people, interests etc. I'm part oft some Linux, Free Software, special interest forums. And there definitely are communities with a very different atmosphere... So I wouldn't say it's impossible just because people are people.

[–] actually@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

I think any large collection of people online are going to have issues similar to here; and while the distributed social networks have a distressing tendency to bunch up and get tribal, it’s better than only one instance, such as Reddit.

That said, I think these can be improved later