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[–] superkret 32 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

Why though? A warning to the west?
Cause last time I checked, Russia and Ukraine are on the same continent, making this a huge waste.

[–] remon@ani.social 22 points 2 hours ago

Cause last time I checked, Russia and Ukraine are on the same continen

The RS-26 only has around 6000km range and was developed for striking Europe.

[–] Saleh 25 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Probably a warning in response to letting Ukraine use western missiles deep into russian territory.

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (2 children)

“deep into russian territory” is quite an exaggeration. Biden only okayed it for the Kursk and neighbouring regions.

The U.S. official, who wasn't authorized to speak publicly about the decision, said the U.S. is allowing Ukraine to use the weapons to target in and around Kursk — the same region where some 10,000 North Korean troops were recently deployed, according to the U.S. and its allies.

Source: NPR

[–] Saleh 2 points 27 minutes ago

Thank you for the clarification. It was the lingo used by western media these past days.

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

🤓 Russia is in two continents

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 5 points 1 hour ago

Funnily enough, it is not according to Russia. The definition of "continent" is almost completely arbritrary anyway, and exactly where you draw the line between Europe and Asia - or if you draw it at all - is probably the fuzziest bit of all. Russia and many other countries just consider Eurasia to be one continent

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 16 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

that still doesn't explain using an icbm against a nation you share a border with. there's some message russia is sending. it's either "don't forget, we have icbms and they're operational" or it's "we are running low on standard missiles and have to fight weird"

[–] _bcron_@lemmy.world 10 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Don't let the name fool you, ICBMs not only have a much larger range but they also (generally) have higher payloads and they're designed around 'user servicable' and swappable warheads.

They're sending a message and it isn't "we could hit you even if you were thousands of kilometers away", it's "we could bolt a nuke to this bad boy"

[–] Laser 2 points 41 minutes ago (1 children)

I mean... The general point still stands. It's not that western nations seriously doubt that Russia has these weapons. We know Russia has ICBMs, we know they have nukes, we know they're willing to attack Ukraine with conventional weapons.

What Western nations doubt is that Russia would actually attack them or use nukes, because it'd trigger a united response they'd lose against, and they know that and want to avoid it.

It's not about capabilities, but willingness.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 1 points 3 minutes ago

Yeah, but a central tenet of nuclear deterrence is that you don't constantly posture your own position with nuclear armaments. If you keep saying if you cross this red line we'll go nuclear, and then don't ...... It makes future threats pretty laughable.

International nuclear relations have already been gamed out. It's always a last case scenario, because everyone has a sense of self preservation, especially the narcissistic types that like to be in charge of countries.

No one wants to live in a nuclear wasteland, so no one is going to create a nuclear wasteland unless they feel that they themselves are in immediate existential danger, and even then it would be an action made in spite.

[–] superkret 7 points 3 hours ago

Yeah but no one lives in the part on the other continent.