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Yes, that's exactly what they want.
"American war" is in their comment, and if you take even just a 5s look at their profile you can see them moaning about "Ukrainian propaganda".
They are firmly on the side of Russia. A tankie. Lemmy has an unbelievable amount of them.
Your political views notwithstanding — your condescending attitude is not helping.
I have to say, that was a sub-par attempt at a straw man argument. I've seen far better.
Alas, the existence of US military bases outside of the US does not mean that Russia invading Ukraine is the US's fault – It's Russia's fault.
You are also deliberately calling NATO bases US bases. They aren't. They are NATO bases. NATO is a defence treaty where every member joined willingly. In fact, more are seeking to join, because of Russia's aggression.
And yes, you are a tankie. Plain and simple.
Now show me these hundreds of others of US bases in Europe.
Oh wait, you can't. They have 128 bases in total outside of the US, with a disproportionate amount of those in South Korea. Ergo, your claim that there are hundreds of them in Europe was a complete fabrication.
You evidently do not understand geopolitics if you believe Russia invading Ukraine is the US's war.
And as for yelling slurs... mate, you literally just called myself and others mentally disabled for disagreeing with your pro-Russia tankie nonsense.
Now, I don't know where you're from, but where I live, calling someone disabled as an insult is definitely frowned upon, and considered a slur.
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Do yourself a favor and stay away from wherever you get this stuff.
These US military bases are Nato bases, and no country has ever been 'forced' to join the alliance. Its latest members, Sweden and Finland, have been committed to neutrality for decades, and only joined after Russia invaded Ukraine. Neutrality may work well if your neighbors commit to international law and human rights, which is unfortunately not a given as we learnt once again in February 2022.
European countries sending weapons to Ukraine do not need treaties. Russia invading a European country means that Russia might invade another European country. It is just a lot cheaper to just send weapons and other support to Ukraine and have Ukraine be bombed and their soldiers dead, then to end up in a direct war with Russia.
For the US Ukraine is a problem, as being soft on Russia, means other countries who want more land could attack countries, which the US has intressts in. For example China might see the US Ukraine support and figure invading Taiwan, just means they need to pay a lot of money to US lobbiest to avoid a US response. That might be wrong, but certainly not a good look.