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Harris only received five percent of Republican votes — less than the six percent Joe Biden won in 2020 when he beat Trump, as well as the seven percent won by Hillary Clinton in 2016 when she lost to him. While Harris won independents and moderates, she did so by smaller margins than Biden did in 2020.

Meanwhile, Harris lost households earning under $100,000, while Democratic turnout collapsed. Votes are still being counted, but Harris is on pace to underperform Biden’s 2020 totals by millions of votes.

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[–] lennybird@lemmy.world -2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (2 children)

Voting Democrat temporarily does not make you a Democrat no differently than Liz Cheney voting for Harris or the first-time low-propensity voter who thinks "they're all the same, but since covid impacted me I'm getting rid of the current guy." People just voted against Trump more than they were voting for Biden or his policies. They just wanted him out and to try something different purely because of covid.

This time around, those people just said, "Both Sides." And sat out. Presumably because they drank the Russian Kool-Aid and live in media silos.

That said, I misread the title and paragraph not referencing Democrat, but Democratic support, so my mistake.

[–] VubDapple@lemmy.world 6 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Cool-aide, silos and two parties who both neglected the little guy given that their wealthy backers can't stomach doing so. Yes the Democrats ignore them less (Joe Biden's effort to forgive student loans) but it wasn't enough, and Trump says what desperate people want to hear I guess.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 1 points 6 hours ago

Trump gives his little guys entertainment and the promise to hurt the types of people they don't like. His little guys are well-accounted for, just not in a way that would ever make them not stuck at the bottom. Their propaganda has made them think the problems in their lives are trans minority immigrants rather than the boss that hasn't given them a pay raise in three years because "times are tight".

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

You had it right the first time, people voted for change in 2020, and they did it again this time. Same same.

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

It's more accurate to say Trump's base cult voted like a cult and will always vote for him no matter. This evidenced by the fact that Trump may or may not even break his 2020 numbers despite even population growth.

It's not just that these people voted for change as in all those millions who voted for Biden in 2020 voted for Trump; they just didn't vote for anything at all.