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[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 28 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

With no time for AIPAC to completely rat fuck the election and get Trump elected. Give her some time to help prevent the destruction of democracy and if she doesn't move on the issue then she'll reap what she sows.

[–] nieminen@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

This was my thought as well. I get the feeling she's been fairly quiet on the subject until now due to the power AIPAC has in our politics. If she spoke out this whole time, I'm sure they would have thrown all their financial and political power against her.

I hope we're right.

[–] abff08f4813c@j4vcdedmiokf56h3ho4t62mlku.srv.us 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Me too. Although even once Harris takes office, AIPAC would still have a lot of power and influence. But I'm choosing to remain optimistically hopeful here.

[–] nieminen@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

All we need to do is freaking STOP standing in the way of the UN. How many times has the US vetoed the UN in attempts to assuage the horrors being visited on these Gazan people.

Yep, hopefully Harris will be able to direct the US reps at the UN to stop doing that much.

Unfortunately it seems there's a law that requires the US to defund where the UN recognizes Palestine as an independent state (see https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/unesco-votes-to-admit-palestine-over-us-objections/2011/10/31/gIQAMleYZM_story.html / https://archive.is/67xzK ) but I don't think that applies to the scenario you just discussed.

(I also don't get how that law works with the US supporting a two state solution - how can the US support a two state solution, one of which being Palestine - and defund those who recognize two states too?)

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 2 weeks ago

You're not dont worry. But heres hoping she somehow wins either way. Otherwise we're fucked.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Even given that, "end the war as soon as possible" is an open ended statement. The war would end if everyone in Gaza was dead, and that could happen pretty quick if all the gloves came off.

Still, saying something is nice.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago

Making peace by making a desert

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago

and if she doesn’t move on the issue then she’ll reap what she sows.

But the next election will be the most important election ever and Republicans will be ready to commit N+1 genocides if elected.

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 2 weeks ago

yawn thats magical thinking. If that was the case she'd have committed to enforcing America's laws on not arming genocidal forces if she was serious about. All she did was trot out some tokens and say the same thing she's said the entire campaign.