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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Only if you think you are going to get what you are going to need with Democrats. And we have Democrats. And we're not getting what we need.

Sometimes you have to do things the hard way. Rashida's job depends on her extolling the will of her constituents. Her job is to represent them not a brand called the DNC. If the DNC can't be in the right on this matter, it truly is their problem.

I think after this cycle we see the progressive block moving back to being 'independents', since Democrats have proven to be an unreliable/ worthless caucus member. Which is fine. There is probably more power on the outside right now.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 8 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I think after this cycle we see the progressive block moving back to being ‘independents’

The thing is, we need to start jockeying for position immediately. Don't wait until presidential campaigns start rolling around in 3 years before signalling a departure. These things take years to pick up steam.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

They did so since last year. This is not last second not unexpected.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Isn't that what this article is signalling? This is Talib breaking, imo, in the strongest manner possible with the party.

Talib is a Democrat not endorsing the Democrat for president. This might be Talib doing what Talib thinks she needs to do to hold her seat.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 2 points 3 days ago

Perhaps you are right and she is the beginning of it. It will be interesting to see if she picks up a lot more support once the election is over and the focus is no longer on blocking Trump.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Progressives need to start campaigning for the 2028 primaries as soon as possible. We cannot let the genocide wing of the party claim to have a mandate.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

lol, this again? God, you're relentless in your staunch belief that pouring more effort into the problem will solve it.

This is how you burn out your constituents. Iteration after iteration of failing while refusing to change tactics.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

Ooh. Tell us again how we just have to wait for RCV to come along before progressives can do anything. I was wondering what the next "just wait until after" was going to be once the 2024 election had passed. You're jumping the gun a bit.

Iteration after iteration of failing while refusing to change tactics.

Actually preparing for a primary as early as possible IS changing tactics. Primarying a sitting incumbent instead of meekly accepting the incumbent IS changing tactics. Accepting the constantly sliding timetable of delay tactics from centrist party leadership is NOT changing tactics. It's what got us here.

[–] wildncrazyguy138@fedia.io 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It’s a bold move. I suppose if you let in the guy who 100% supports the genocide and they go through in full with it, then you no longer have the problem 🤷‍♂️

[–] Count042@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

So... Both parties then?

Edit: both parties support this genocide 100%.

If you want to differentiate between Trump and Harris, you need to use a different policy position to do so. Gaza isn't it.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world -2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Every Palestinian American who has lost a cousin to an American bomb after reading your comment:

I get it. I get it that you are intentionally trying to not understand what is happening right now. But your lack of understanding doesn't change what is hapening.

[–] Count042@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 days ago

This isn't 'A cousin' situation.

I have multiple friends who've lost the entirety of their extended families.

Aunts, uncles, nieces, nephews and grandparents gone in a day.

The jackasses going around calling people 'entitled' for not supporting the party directly responsible for erasing their entire families from existence are entitled to be able to go through life with absolutely no empathy or imagination.