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See, I've been reading Common Sense by Thomas Paine, and it's perfect example of something impossible today.

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[–] Sundial@lemm.ee 35 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Was there ever a time that this was the case?

[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)
[–] ValiantDust 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm not sure the Catholic Church would agree that Martin Luther changed everyone's opinion.

[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

It certainly changed their opinion of him

[–] iii@mander.xyz -1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I'm not sure the whole arab or asian world would agree. They're still colonizing africa.

[–] Sundial@lemm.ee -5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

MLK definitely did not change everyone's opinion. A lot of people? Sure. Everyone? Absolutely not.

[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I said Martin Luther, not Martin Luther King

[–] Sundial@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Ah that's my bad. My point still stands though. It's not like he was able to convince everyone to become Protestant.

[–] Backlog3231@reddthat.com 2 points 2 weeks ago

The people who chose to remain catholic had no opinion on protestantism before it was invented, then they formed a negative opinion of it. Opinion changed, cheque mate aetheistises.

[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

But everyone’s opinion was changed.

[–] Sundial@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

That was not a criterion of OP’s question. As such, it doesn’t really matter. Just that they were changed is the qualifier here.

If I were to guess, it at least changed their opinion of Martin Luther, even if they didn’t become protestants.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world -2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Yes.

The Pope has that power. Pretty much always has, but it was far more pronounced before universal literacy was a thing.

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't know that a screenshot of twitter is proof of anything, especially after the proliferation of AI.

But, go read about the Catholic Church in the Middle Ages. Even if I'm wrong in my opinion, you'll learn some new things.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 weeks ago

Honestly I think it is wrong to compare modern day to anything over a few decades old. You can't hold Catholics responsible for things that happened centuries ago. You can only hold them to the now.

Also not all Catholics believe the same things.

[–] Sundial@lemm.ee 8 points 2 weeks ago

No pope has ever had the power to change everyone's mind with a single word or speech. That's never been a thing.