this post was submitted on 31 Oct 2024
438 points (97.6% liked)

politics

19118 readers
2766 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

Summary: Author Michael Wolff alleges that Jeffrey Epstein showed him photos of Donald Trump with topless young women at Epstein’s Palm Beach home. Trump’s campaign has denied the claims, calling Wolff a “disgraced” writer. Wolff also expressed skepticism about Epstein’s death, suggesting it was implausible but also questioning the possibility of a cover-up.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] Hegar@fedia.io 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Take Trump out of it for a second

But then it becomes a completely different scenario.

Trump has repeatedly admitted to molesting women, he's bragged about forcing his way into women's locker rooms, he joked openly and without judgement of epstein's love of kids, he has scores of sexual assault allegations, he has enough money and clout to cover up his rapes and he's been convicted of illegally covering up legal but embarrassing sexual encounters.

Trump has definitely molested children, it is a fact. It's literally beyond a shadow of a doubt.

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

What you're after is news pieces that confirm your position. Dangerous.

then it becomes a completely different scenario.

No. No it does not.

At the end of the day...

A guy is saying a dead guy did a thing that makes another guy look bad, right before a big event involving that other guy.

Literally, this is "Trust me, bro."

Be it Trump, Elmo, or a box of Skittles, this preface does not change. Acknowledge that first, then you can go start conversations about Trump molestations as much as you like.

Don't be like a red hatter and get caught in echo chambers.

[–] Hegar@fedia.io 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

that affirm your position.

I'm looking for news that affirms reality. Trump's public record words and actions already left no doubt that he's molested children. This writer's credible but unsourced account is just to remind people that trump has molested children, something that most people realize from trump's words, actions, associates attitude.

When something looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, hangs out with ducks, eats bread at the park, and admits in public and private to being a duck - it's unreasonable to argue that we can't assume it's a duck.

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Im looking for news that affirms reality.

You...affirm your reality...by looking forr news...that does so?

With the intent and purpose of rational thought, it's supposed to be the other way around.. In by doing this, it is the premise of "fact checking" and the antithesis of misinformation.

That's how reality, by definition, works. A statement is made. We look to confirm it. It is real if confirmed. You don't look for statements to confirm a hypothesis and say, "Well, that's my reality."

What you just said is no different to stating that you look for Google results that back up what you want to hear...

Are you trying to prove my point for me?

Trump's public record words and actions already left no doubt that he's molested children. This writer's credible but unsourced account is just to remind people that trump has molested children, something that most people realize from trump's words, actions, associates attitude.

That's unrelated to anything I've said and I don't know why you thought I'd want to hear it.

When something looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, hangs out with ducks, eats bread at the park, and admits in public and private to being a duck - it's unreasonable to argue that we can't assume it's a duck.

That's an unrelated example of abductive reasoning. Again, I don't know why you picked me to share that with. If it bears any relation to what I've said, it's irony in that by saying it, you're proving my point further.