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The Governments of Ireland, Norway, Slovenia and Spain condemn the approval by the Knesset [the Israeli parliament] of legislation to prevent UN Relief Agency (UNRWA) from operating in the Occupied Palestinian Territory.

UNRWA has a mandate from the United Nations General Assembly. The work of the Agency is essential and irreplaceable for millions of Palestinian refugees in the region, and particularly in the current context in Gaza. The legislation approved by the Knesset sets a very serious precedent for the work of the United Nations and for all organizations of the multilateral system.

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[โ€“] cabbage@piefed.social 5 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

If nothing else, maybe it could make the US, Germany, and France to stop for a brief moment and wonder if they're really on the right side of history in this one.

[โ€“] Mihies@programming.dev 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Especially Germany is managing to be on wrong side of genocide, again.

[โ€“] cabbage@piefed.social 0 points 13 hours ago

It's like they mistook "never forget" for being a useful advice from history - "never forget how to legitimise mass murder before your population".

[โ€“] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Is France doing anything? I believe their relations with Israel had been getting worse because of the war.

[โ€“] cabbage@piefed.social 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

They've been arresting people for wearing keffiyehs. They also took part in the banning of protests, and they've been pushing to expel students from Sciences Po for protesting (which is pretty unheard of). The recent election was pretty fucked, with the left frequently being attacked for being islam lovers or whatever.

I think it's fair to say that both French/Israeli and US/Israeli relations are suffering from Israel's genocide, but actions speak louder than words. And in terms of actions, France has sadly been quite shit.

Arguably not quite as shit as Germany though.

[โ€“] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

And in terms of actions, France has sadly been quite shit.

So according to a quick Google France doesn't sell weapons to Israel and Macron has been calling for a ban on arms sales to Israel.

They also took part in the banning of protests,

That was definitely bad, but I don't think an event from the start of the war is relevant anymore. Israel largely still had international sympathy then.

and they've been pushing to expel students from Sciences Po for protesting (which is pretty unheard of).

When was that?

The recent election was pretty fucked, with the left frequently being attacked for being islam lovers or whatever.

Don't get me wrong; I have serious issues with French Islamophobia and know Macron is a far-right prick. But, whatever possessed him to do so, he's staying on the right side of history this time around. While I'd love to see them impose sanctions on Israel, I wouldn't say France is particularly supporting them.

[โ€“] cabbage@piefed.social 4 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Yeah, Macron is not the worst. Macron called to halt arm deliveries to Israel in the beginning of October this year, which is quite little quite late, but again better than Germany and the US.

Here's a case about a Norwegian student who was appealing being expelled from Sciences Po over pro-Palestinian protests. She was not alone, but I can't find international media coverage. This was in August. The crackdown against pro-Palestina protests at Sciences Po was actively pushed by Gabriel Attal, so I think it's fair to hold the government accountable for campus controversies in this case.

I think Macron is not a far right prick; he's merely a centre right prick. He's not actively on the wrong side of history in this case, but he's very reluctant to be on the right side as well.

When I singled out France along with the two others it's because they're a huge player in Europe, and I find their response disappointing. But you're right maybe I was unfair listing them next to Germany and the US.

In general I think continental Europe except Spain has been a gigantic disappointment.

[โ€“] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

In general I think continental Europe except Spain has been a gigantic disappointment.

Does Norway not count as continental Europe?

[โ€“] cabbage@piefed.social 3 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

I guess it does. I feel like Scandinavia only half belongs - as a Norwegian living further south the last half decade or so, it's a long way home. And in Norwegian, we refer to "down on the continent" as being the "proper" European countries, excluding ourselves.

I also didn't feel comfortable bringing up Norway as it would feel like I was just bragging about my country. ;)

[โ€“] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 points 10 hours ago