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[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 95 points 4 weeks ago (5 children)

The hardest thing to change for 4channers is losing the right wing, authoritarian, hierarchy stuff. Just treat others like asexual, innocent, nice people and they will treat you the same. The problem with 4 chan and most online forums is that the hormone levels behind the keyboard are through the roof and they just want sex. They don't care about actually fixing or changing themselves - they want to do the minimum required to get laid.

[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 46 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

I get it. I was young once, and my lizard brain did all the driving. I didn't pull my head out of my ass until 27, and the pop could be heard around the globe. That actually coincides with the last cognitive development stage, which happens around 26-27. Life before then seems so unbelievably cringeworthy.

The thing, though is that men in general do not bond or mentor each other, generally, or at the very least, we don't surround ourselves with people who we can learn from, because funni.

Men need to work on helping each other grow. Memes are great. Booze is fun. However, there should be something deeper than context based friendships, and that all starts with being comfortable talking and being somewhat vulnerable with each other, and honest with ourselves about what we are feeling internally.

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 19 points 4 weeks ago

I would argue that “men don’t bond” if they were raised on the alpha male bullshit you escaped from on the internet. I met my best friend in high school, we went to college together, and then he moved across the country over 10 years ago. We’re both in our early thirties now. But we chat still nearly every weekend, talk about life, boost each other’s spirits, chat politics, hopes, dreams, regrets, give each other advice based on our individual experiences. We never were part of the “kick each other in the balls = friendship” crowd, and while it’s certainly there, I think that saying generally men all feel that way is a bit disingenuous

[–] Rolando@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

the last cognitive development stage, which happens around 26-27.

Wait, what? I don't think I got the memo on that one. This isn't some "manosphere" thing, is it?

[–] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works 16 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Nah, that's a real thing. Usually your finishes its final maturing phase around 25-30. Ofcourse your brain is still developing (and deteriorating) for the rest of your life, but at that point it's much slower.

[–] Rolando@lemmy.world 4 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Hey so what is this cognitive development that I may have missed out on? I tried googling but nothing comes up. Can you point me to some reading about this? Or some term to search for? Thanks.

[–] watersnipje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Here’s some review of recent research on the topic: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6970937/

[–] Rolando@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago

It is a period of brain maturation, learning about intimacy and mutual support, intensification of pre-existing friendships, family-oriented socialization, and the attainment of those social skills that are needed for mating and reproduction.

Awesome, thanks!

[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 6 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Trust me when I say I would be the last person to spout shit like that

[–] Rolando@lemmy.world 5 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Sorry fam I didn't mean it that way, I've just learned to be suspicious.

[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 5 points 4 weeks ago

All good G

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 weeks ago

Hence "guys that are more out of shape than me."

[–] uis@lemm.ee 2 points 4 weeks ago

The problem with 4 chan and most online forums is that the hormone levels behind the keyboard are through the roof and they just want sex. They don't care about actually fixing or changing themselves - they want to do the minimum required to get laid.

Sometimes hormone level go so high, that 4channers shart to develop academia-level projects and (presumably) inspire MIT researchers. I talk specifically about PPP from /mlp/, but there is also /chag/.