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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/17869503

I know I'm going against the grain here, I'm obviously no Harris lover, but also I'd prefer to be allowed to continue existing. If that's controversial in leftist spaces then maybe I don't want to spend any more time in leftist spaces.

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[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

Who is voting Republican down-ballot over Gaza for this take to function?

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 4 weeks ago

The electoral college favors low population states. Republicans historically do well in low population states. In order to correct for this overrepresentation, Democrats need high voter turnout. So not voting or or voting third party depresses that high voter turnout Democrats need to win. This is why tankies and accelerationists spend so much time falsely conflating Kamala and Trump. They know they need to discourage as many people from voting for Kamala as possible to get Trump elected. So Vote!

[–] KammicRelief@lemmy.world 7 points 4 weeks ago (5 children)

I think it's more the third party voters (which effectively are Republican voters, by taking away Dem votes). And abstainers, which, ditto.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 weeks ago

Third party votes and abstainers for the presidency are by no measures 'taking away' votes from anyone.

It only can be that way if there are zero Republican voters voting third party or abstaining for any reason. We know this isn't true. The Democratic Party's express electoral strategy is to appeal to and attract those voters, ostensibly at a greater return rate than voters they turn off or drive to third parties.

It's a risky strategy and it failed once before in 2016.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 weeks ago

this was proven to be a straw man since the report than jill stein siphons away more trump voters than kamala voters.

[–] Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Can you explain in detail how my California 3rd party vote will help Trump?

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

The Republican strategy is to contest the election in every state, county, and polling place. We need high voter turnout to prevent contested elections all over the country. No matter where people live, even California, our votes matter.

[–] Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago

So you think trump will spend money trying to to flip my district that went 78% for Biden in my state that went 63.5% for Biden so I cannot exercise my constitutionally protected right to do anything but support a corpo prosecutor.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

As someone who supports third party, there was no chance of me voting for Kamala this election so you can stop with the made-up arguments

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 weeks ago

Are you saying that 2/3 of the country vote Republican? In that case, how is it possible for the Democrats to ever win?

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 5 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

down-ballot

Are these residents of Dearborn also calling for voting out Rashida Tlaib or going for Rogers over Slotkin on the issue?

Or is it just the presidential race? The article doesn't even mention any of them.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 5 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

https://www.al-monitor.com/originals/2024/10/arab-americans-are-evenly-split-between-harris-and-trump-will-it-matter

The Arab American Institute poll also found that, by a slight majority (46% to 43%), Arab American voters say they would prefer to see Republicans control the next Congress beginning in January.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 weeks ago

Ah thanks.

James Zogby, co-founder of the Arab American Institute, said the latest polling numbers reflect the reality that a significant population of Arab Americans vote Republican.

Well, maybe the votes weren't there to begin with, but I haven't seen a campaign against Rashida Tlaib, so I'll be surprised if she does in fact lose.