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[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 96 points 4 weeks ago (5 children)

Guess what!

Food is also a human right!

[–] SatyrSack 88 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] theangryseal@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago

You tell ‘em, Quark!

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 52 points 4 weeks ago

Fun fact: the US is one of the only countries in the world that does not recognise food as a human right

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 26 points 4 weeks ago (5 children)

The difference is that “food” isn’t something that falls out of the sky or simply exists in its final form in nature. It is farmed, processed, and packaged for market.

Water, by itself, is natural and in its final form (sans boiling away impurities). It also falls from the sky. The problem comes up that companies like Nestle have “water rights” that some argue they shouldn’t have that prohibit use of publicly available water for anybody but Nestle.

Personally, I don’t see a problem with a company profiting off of the packaging, marketing, and distribution of bottled water. The problem I have is that companies should not be allowed to take as much water as they want, especially if it hurts public interest. I also have issue with states restricting a persons ability to capture and use rain water.

Kind of hypocritical that I cannot capture rain water and sell it, but Nestle can siphon of millions of gallons of water from a public water source and everyone is expected to be okay with it.

[–] TheSambassador@lemmy.world 10 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean... Some food does literally just exist and we go out and eat it.

[–] irmoz@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

Not as part of a normal life. Or at least, I don't see many people carrying baskets of freshly picked apples around.

Your point is true, though, even if a bit impractical for most.

[–] kmaismith@lemm.ee 5 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

When we culturally embrace that food is a market item, not a right, then we systemically avoid maintaining or enabling sources of food that violate market principles: say, for example, keeping fruit trees in public parks, and making excess farm production available to the public

[–] irmoz@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago

Yeah that's kinda key to my my point

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 6 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

"Well fuck me then, eh?" -Thousands of species of edible plants

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 5 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Rainwater capture isn't about you and I and some 50-gallon drums, your article even talks about reasonable use. The idea is to stop assholes from changing/diverting waterways.

There was an ass somewhere out West that was prosecuted, acting like he was a simple man getting the government shaft. He was collecting so much he dried up a creek that downstream farmers depended on.

Funny enough, I looked up Florida and apparently we not only encourage rainwater collection, some municipalities offer incentives! Weird. Now if it would only rain...

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I have a fig tree in my backyard that says you're wrong

[–] sirblastalot@ttrpg.network 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

May I direct you to the first two words of your post?

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

I didn't plant it. It exists in it's final form in nature. I just occasionally grab a fig when I'm hungry and nearby. You can too if you like.

[–] SatyrSack 15 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Guess what!

Also, as an aside, thank you for using an exclamation point. As a licensed and registered pedant, it always bugs me to see a question mark on a statement/command. "Guess what?" is a common offender.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 17 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm going to need to see that license

[–] SatyrSack 16 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I... forgot my wallet at home, constable.

[–] casmael@lemm.ee 9 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

suspect evaded arrest and made off with a whole bag of punctuation marks. Headed northwest into a series of tunnels. Requesting backup.

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

I have used both in the past, interpreting it as "did(n't) you know!?" But I take your point, it's really an order. I shall see that I don't offend in the future.

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 10 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Water already is too, via the Geneva convention, and other human rights treaties/laws.