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[–] voiceofchris@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You sound like you're scared that you won't be able to find any good data that supports you.

you concluded that 3.5% of Americans were trump hating non democrats and that since 8.5% of Americans were trump hating republicans and that number is bigger, all the trump hating non democrats must be republicans and none of them could possibly be third party,

This is a mischaracterization of the conclusions i made. I have made it clear that i only need to argue for it being possible that half or more of the 3% third partiers could be in favor of Trump over Harris. Of course many of them favor Harris. You find me where i said otherwise. I double dog date you. Im fact, it was the original article that made the preposterous unsupported claim that almost all third partiers are closet-aupportera of one side or the other. My argument this entire time has been that this claim is BS unless someone can provide support for it.

Since you keep skipping over all of my points in order to get to the part where you criticize me as quickly as possible i am going to ask you exactly one question this time. Please answer.

What exactly is the range of percentages for anti-Trump Republicans that you would accept to be in support of my conclusion?

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well, I'm going to ask you a question that you have been ducking for over twelve hours: can one person be three, or were your reasoning, logic, and conclusions based on misuse of inconsistent and unreliable polling data?

Your attempt to get me to take part in a rehash of the same logic with different data is futile. Your logic is nonsense.

[–] voiceofchris@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So you're not willing to answer my question?

I have answered all of yours and responded in good faith to each of your less than civil comments. In fact, i have already answered the very question you just re-asked.

Are you willing to answer my question, or should we let it drop?

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Are you willing to admit that polling data is unreliable and that it's nonsense to do arithmetic on results from separate pools? If not, there's no basis for engaging with you because you'll just repeat the same nonsense with poll after poll until you luck out on one that is less obviously misleading.

[–] voiceofchris@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How on earth did you miss the part where i just explained in detail that making claims about what the polls show was something presented by someone on your side of the argument. I am literally here showing how the polls, whether you think they are wortheless or not, do not show what that person was claiming. If your complaint is with polls in general why are you huffing and puffing at me and not at that person. Could it be because that person just so happens to be arguing something that you'd like to be true and i am not?

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

Because the other person didn't do insane arithmetic between polls in a way that counted some people as three people then defend it three times before backing down, and then refuse to admit for another 24 hours that their logic was flawed.