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[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 110 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Polish: *gives species a name that identifies it without ambiguity*
English: berry.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 74 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 41 points 1 month ago

Culinary: That is a vegetable.

[–] flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz 13 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Same thing with nuts and melons.

This is so common that I wonder if it's the scientists that are wrong. They used the word to describe something different than what's usually called a berry.

[–] Psaldorn@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Nuts and melons. We've cum full circle!

[–] protist@mander.xyz 6 points 1 month ago

Science applied technical definitions to these terms centuries after they were already in common usage

[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 month ago

I think it's probably because the culinary terms are feel based, while the scientific terms are more rigorously defined, and thus ends up describing different things, because nothing properly fits for the culinary feels-based definitions

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

People keep telling me eggplants are a fruit but I sure wouldn't put one in a fruit salad.

[–] wieson 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

As I see it, English has the word fruit twice.

Once as a sweet fruit.

And once as anything that is produced to hold the seeds. Hazelnut is the fruit of the hazelnut tree. Mushroom is the fruit of the mycelium. Pinecone is the fruit of the pine.

Also fruits of your labour somewhere.

[–] Hugin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

The botanical definition of fruit is the ripened ovary of a flower.

[–] trustnoone@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 1 month ago

English: "Its so nice and sweet, lets call its strawberry"

Everyone else: "umm because its a berry right?? It is a berry right?"

[–] angrystego@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

There's no such fish as a thing

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 1 month ago

Same as bird. It's just helpful to lump things into broad categories.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 5 points 1 month ago

The genus name Fragaria derives from fragum ("strawberry") and -aria, a suffix used to create feminine nouns and plant names. The Latin name is thought in turn to derive from a Proto-Indo-European language root meaning "berry", either *dʰreh₂ǵ- or *sróh₂gs.[4] The genus name is sometimes mistakenly derived from fragro ("to be fragrant, to reek").

Just one example of how this predates English by millennia