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Several county jails along Florida’s coast within the path of Hurricane Milton are choosing not to evacuate hundreds of incarcerated individuals as the storm makes landfall on Wednesday.

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[–] atx_aquarian@lemmy.world 35 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

Gotta rtfa to get the full context.

Even so, at least three county jails in Florida that sit within mandatory evacuation areas have decided that detainees will ride out the storm. These jails — Pinellas, Manatee, and St. Johns counties — have a combined incarcerated population of more than 4,000 people. Recent analysis from The Appeal found that more than 21,000 people are locked up at facilities in areas with evacuation orders ahead of Milton. An earlier investigation by The Intercept found that across Florida, 52 jails, prisons and detention centers face major to extreme flood risks over the next 30 years as such climate-driven storms intensify, the most among any state.

Florida has among the largest populations of incarcerated people in the country, more than 84,000, according to federal data — exceeding the jailed populations of entire countries, such as France, Germany, Malaysia, or Venezuela.

“With that number of inmates it’s not really possible, feasible to evacuate people out of there, and it’s unnecessary because we can go up,” said Pinellas County Sheriff Bob Gualtieri on Wednesday during a press conference. He said the Pinellas County Jail, which has a population of about 3,100 people, is prepared to move people from the first floor cells to the second floor in the event of flooding.

“We have plenty of staff there, everything’s safe, it’s under control and I’m not concerned about it,” he said, adding that around 800 deputies and jail staff would be on hand. The jail sits within an area deemed Zone A, the most severe tier among evacuation areas, and is located next to a waterway that spills into Tampa Bay.

There are still systemic problems here, but it's not like they just locked everyone on the ground floor and peaced-out, as the headline made me think.

Edit: I just want to add that the rest of the article goes even deeper in, in my opinion, undoing my outrage induced from the headline. It talks about facilities being weather-ready and built on higher ground, it mentions procedures for ones that aren't, it consults a former FEMA official....

[–] LowleeKun 17 points 1 month ago

Ohh they are going up a floor, what could possibly go wrong? It is only some hurricane, nothing special.

Fuck this shit and this disgusting prison system. How obvious can they be about not seeing inmates as humans?

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

If inmates die, will the bosses be thrown in prison? That is the simple test. If they believe their forts are secure, they will take responsibility in advance... But of course they didn't. They never will. Prisoners have no value to them.

[–] knatschus@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 month ago

It isn't even just the prisoners, they're willing to put the workers in danger too.

[–] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago

"Plenty of staff" I'm calling bullshit right there. I don't work corrections but I used to work forensic psych and they were the only part of that institutional system with worse staffing than us.

[–] brygphilomena@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

There was an article just days or a week ago about prisoners who were stuck in cells that were flooded and toilets that didn't work and backed up into their cells for days following Helene.