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[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 40 points 4 months ago (4 children)

We used to make fun of people like this. Humiliate them. Alas, no more. Everyone's opinion is now valuable.

[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 15 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Humiliating people does not help them grow, study suggests

[–] ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

it's just as equally effective to break dumb beliefs like this as reasoning is, and both are far more effective than empathy, according to studies.

[–] Oni_eyes@sh.itjust.works 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm going to need a source for those claims.

[–] ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world -3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

GIYF. the paper is out there, published and reviewed. circa 2021, I think.

[–] Oni_eyes@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You made the claim, you provide the source.

[–] ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world -3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

naw, I'm lying. it doesn't exist. whatever you want to believe, I don't fucking care about you.

If you want to look it up, look it up. if you don't, don't. I have zero interest in trying to convince retards.

[–] Oni_eyes@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Mmk and I have no reason to take anything you say seriously. Guess you're just a lying sack of shit.

[–] ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

heh, sure, if you say so. 🤷‍♂️ If saying that makes you feel better, I'm happy for you.

The paper still exists, regardless whether you believe in it or not, though.

[–] Oni_eyes@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Cool, dunno why you can't link it since you are the one using it.

[–] ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I dunno why you can't link it since you are the one caring so much

[–] Oni_eyes@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Because that's the basics of discussion. You use a source, you link it to support your words.

[–] ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

but... I don't want to. I don't care about you or your opinions enough to bother. 👍

[–] Oni_eyes@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

also, I already said I'm lying. Are you wanting to prove I'm lying about lying?

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago

No, but it prevents other people from engaging with a topic to begin with

[–] Lightor@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

On the other hand, normalizing and allowing it just enables and validates it.

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I think that’s what the internet has done for us, it’s removed that sort “social immune system” that prevented crazy ideas from spreading. Before, if somebody had some crazy ideas, the most they could usually do was rant to people on the bus/subway, maybe make some pamphlets, or some other small-scale thing to spread the idea. At best you might find someone on AM radio broadcasting at weird hours. Individuals would get exposed to it, but would likely never pass it on, this contained crazy ideas and they rarely got traction to spread.

Now the internet comes along, and suddenly crazies are getting hooked up with impressionable people easier than ever before. Crazy ideas have an almost endless supply of rubes that will eat them right up. Our social immune system can’t protect society from all the insane things flying around at high speeds all over the place now. It’s intellectual chaos.

[–] nonfuinoncuro@lemm.ee 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I mean the social immune system also prevented ideas like worker solidarity, gender equality, socioeconomic mobility, sexual freedom, etc. from spreading but I get your point. Opening Pandora's box let the crazies out as well as the AOC/Bernie and free Palestine crowds.

[–] OsaErisXero@kbin.run 4 points 4 months ago

The problem being, at least for the moment, the crazy is winning

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's not that their opinion is now valuable. We just figured out that Bullying doesn't work.

[–] ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] archon@sh.itjust.works 10 points 4 months ago

To supress elements in a herd? Sure it does.

Healthy for the individual? Not so much.

[–] ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

it's like no bully ever got lunch money from another kid ever, because bullying doesn't work?

the mafia/mob tried to run protection rackets, but were never successful because bullying doesn't work.

🙄

jfc you people. 🤦‍♂️

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 0 points 4 months ago

Ok, bullying doesn't work if you have "good intentions"