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[–] WrenHavoc@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I'm left leaning but don't like to define myself as left because that can lead to bias

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"defining" doesn't lead to bias. you are left-leaning regardless of what you decide to call yourself. The important thing is recognizing and acknowledging your predisposition, which it seems you have.

[–] WrenHavoc@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago

what it protects against is group ideology. I don’t want to start thinking things simply because the political party I align most with thinks that, and unfortunately, identifying with a political group can make people start doing that. I do recognize my biases when making decisions, it's important to do so, I just find it becomes harder to do that when I start identifying with a group

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

People are prone to bias regardless of their political identification. Identifying as left-leaning provides no more protection against bias than any other political identification.

[–] WrenHavoc@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

what it protects against is group ideology. I don't want to start thinking things simply because the political party I align most with thinks that, and unfortunately, identifying with a political group can make people start doing that.

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 month ago

The left isn't anymore a political group than leaning-left is. Political parties have positions on the political spectrum, but positions on the political spectrum are not inherently political parties. What left political party are you referring to?

[–] hjjanger@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So what? Is it your responsibility to lead someone away from bias because you simply state you are on the left on the political spectrum?

[–] WrenHavoc@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

no, I'm trying to keep MYSELF away from bias

[–] hjjanger@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Good luck. If you lean one way or another you are already biased. Inescapable.

[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

95% of my values HEAVILY align with the left, but they also

a) are vaguely lazy and I don't identify with that

b) go way too far on issues I've done zero research on

c) never pass legislation due to never having enough political power

So I can't support them.

I should've added a /s.

[–] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

c) never pass legislation due to never having enough political power

So I can't support them.

Well these things sure seem like they could be related...

[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I have had so many conversations from casual progressive conspiracy theorists about how they think all the Democrats get together and agree on the fall guy (most recently, Manchin) to keep issues on the table indefinitely. You see it constantly with these Jill Stein people. I've literally told them the only solution is to give liberal Democrats the majority, which they haven't had in my lifetime.

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Those ones are constantly spreading idiotic takes. "The Dems and Repubs have a ratchet effect towards evil. Therefore we should let the Repubs in to advance the ratchet."

The things they cite as Dems holding the country back are like always direct results of Repub SCOTUSes, too.

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz -1 points 1 month ago

Sure, drag agrees with the left on every issue and completely supports their policies. But drag thinks politics are like sports teams, and drag won't back a loser!

/s