As a die hard Sta Wars fan, I'm pretty hesitant to even identify as that now. It was 100% shitty toxic fans that ruined this show. I guarantee most people saw the negative internet backlash and never even bothered with the show. Incels backlash is organized and planned. This shit has more reviews on RT than Mandorian, a 5 year old show after 2 weeks. It's all bots and fake review spam. Almost all criticism I saw leveled at the show was from people who had CLEARLY never seen Star Wars, and were NOT watching The Acolyte. They were bitching that Dathomiri Force Witches were woke lesbians! Give me a fucking break Force Witches have been part of SW lore for 30 fucking years. Acolyte was amazing Star Wars and I pity the fans who are too stupid to enjoy it.

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

It still wasn't good.

It wasnt bad, definitely not as terrible as the trolls and neck beards screamed it was, but it was all over the place.

Describe the main character? What's her motivation? They created a whole tragic backstory for her, but for most of the series her only motivation was to basically hang out with her old gang, maybe get back in, but that wasn't clear either.

They had an opportunity to tell a beautiful story, and the setting showed potential, the republic at the height of it's glory.

They overplayed their message, the Jedi order was both perfectly idealistic while also wholly corrupt. The witches suffered prejudice and intolerance, but also violently lashed out at anyone concerned for the wellbeing of their kids, who were basically being abused by a religious cult. Reverse the sexes: if it was a colony of mandalorian men who kept some force sensitive boys against their will how would that play?

None of it really went anywhere, huge strokes that hinted at epic scope and fizzled out. Flashbacks that revealed what was hinted at, but just answered questions without meaning. Finally, the few characters they actually tried to build up, they killed in one huge scene to feed the significance of their main villain.

So many post-covid scripts have this: they start with these beautiful themes and backdrops, but fall apart as the plot is meant to evolve. Almost all the MCU fell for this short of the spidermen.

It drew far too much hate, and it probably deserved a second season to pull itself together, but the first season was a mess.

You need to use those epic backdrops as a lure, to get viewers to be patient while you set up the internal character conflicts that actually matter.

Compare the elevator scene in andor, or just the heist episode to anything in acolyte, it's just not even the same league.

[–] tron@midwest.social 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Describe the main character? What's her motivation?

This is a strange question. Osha finds out her sister is alive after 15 years and is killing the Jedi she thinks rescued her. Thats not motivation?

I totally enjoyed the Jedi being flawed and arrogant. They couldn't imagine anything bad happening in their ever vigilant watch.

Compare the elevator scene in andor, or just the heist episode to anything in acolyte, it's just not even the same league.

The episode where Qimir straight up murders like 20 Jedi in their prime. Absolutely brilliant and as good as anything else Disney has done with the franchise.

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 6 points 2 months ago

I'm sorry, that scene did little for me.

How many scenes have we had with jedi getting completely humbled by sith they didn't expect?

Yeah it was great seeing Jason destroy the Jedi. Jason? Yeah, that one hurt.

But he was also wiping everyone we were connected to, we lost the Jedi knight Vaughn the shirtless, as well as the greatest jedi in living history, padawan jecki the competent. It was an orgy and spectacle just to show that yes, evil dude is strong.

Afterwards, did it mean anything? He gave his monologue summing up the ending of Randianist philosophy the next episode, but we still barely had a motivation from him, he was just himself.

It had a lot of promise, but it was a series just to start a series and expand the franchise into the high republic.

They needed more. If you took Andor out of star wars it would still be incredible, if you took the acolyte out of star wars it would make even less sense.

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Heard.

If it had been a cartoon in the style of clone wars people woulda ate.that.shit.up

It wasn’t bad honestly and I was legitimately looking forward to where the story went.

So was my teenage son.

🤷‍♂️

[–] tron@midwest.social 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

My only hope is that we get some kind of closure on this story in an animated short or something. Maybe Tales of the Sith? Nothing is truly ever dead. How are they gonna show us Darth fucking Plagueius and the cancel the show. God damnit!!!

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago

I mean … it’s similar to how they did us at the end of Solo too :(

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 8 points 2 months ago

I didn't read any of the feedback about it and I thought it was extremely mid. The big fight with all the Jedi was cool. The writing was bad. Most of the characters were morons with poorly explained motivations. The pacing was bad. The 7th episode was a flashback episode with like 10 minutes of new content to show some different perspectives which is totally unnecessary when the series is only 8 episodes long.

[–] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 months ago

Thank you for your comment!