this post was submitted on 26 Aug 2024
464 points (95.5% liked)

politics

19135 readers
2284 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] Jackary@lemmy.dbzer0.com -4 points 2 months ago (3 children)

You think Trump is a conservative? pro-weed, pro-cryptocurrency (and as Bitcoin, NOT Central Bank Digital Currency) conservative? What lol

He knows that his main appeal is that, but at the end of the day I wouldnt say his policies are truly conservative at all. keep in mind not all repubs are conservative.

[–] nomous@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Wow you listed two whole things that were never conservative keystones and pretended they were.

What about his thoughts towards regulating big business? Roe v. Wade? Immigration?

[–] Jackary@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yes.. I listed two core differences. Weed is extremely anti religion in many ways lol. Crypto is extremely progressive economical reform. You seemed so shocked by saying "wow" I figured you needed an explanation.

Immigration his thoughts are rather normal on. Migration =/= immigration. I dont think anyone wants migrants to continue spilling into a country that is giving all of its money away...

Yknow before Trump both Obama and Clinton contributed to the border wall? I guess, by your logic, they must be super conservative!

[–] nomous@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Weed is extremely anti religion in many ways lol

I mean, a lot of religions are antiweed but I'll concede that point.

Crypto is extremely progressive economical reform.

What kind of gymnastics are you doing that you see magic internet money as "progressive economical reform?" I've been around for a minute and every hardcore cryptobro I've had conversations with ends up being some flavor of ancap/libertarian/accelerationist/wannabe warlord/sells drugs or is in some other way explicitly anti-state.

Immigration his thoughts are rather normal on. Migration =/= immigration. I dont think anyone wants migrants to continue spilling into a country that is giving all of its money away…

Thanks for dog whistling, we all know what you mean.

both Obama and Clinton contributed to the border wall? I guess, by your logic, they must be super conservative!

Did you think they were progressive?

[–] UrPartnerInCrime@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Jackary@lemmy.dbzer0.com -4 points 2 months ago

That was definitely a move in that direction, but one conservative move does not a conservative make. He has done some ratherrrr progressive things too. Some of his ideologies also align to Democratic Party ideologies 2000-2012. (Namely his views on immigration (open, but strict; no more migration) are similar to Obama's). Row v Wade being a 'make this a state's concern' was a weird choice, but it also aligns to the gay marriage ideology of Obama's first term.

i could totally be rusty on some of the above - but, he is way more lenient than a truly conservative man would be. His stance on weed/crypto shock me as they are so progressive.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

His administration was never pro-weed. I bet you think Trump is here to protect the LGBTQ as well.

Last time I checked the conservatives love pump and dump schemes hence why they always repeal banking regulations.

He is a scam artist full stop. All Republicans are responsible for Trump unless they scream out at the top of their lungs he is a narcissist asshat and do everything they can to thwart him.

The gloves are off and we are tired of the racism, misogyny, voter suppression, and othering of human beings. The hate train is coming to a stop.