this post was submitted on 26 Aug 2024
865 points (98.3% liked)

News

23310 readers
3516 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

It turns out that more technology in cars isn’t necessarily something customers want, and it’s not really improving their driving experience. We know my thoughts on the matter, but I’ll do my best to stay impartial on this latest survey from JD Power that shows most customers don’t appreciate technology in cars unless they can see a clear benefit to them.

JD Power’s 2024 U.S. Tech Experience Index Study evaluated over 81,000 drivers’ experience with “advanced vehicle technologies” in 2024 model year vehicles after 90 days of ownership, It turned out to be a pretty mixed bag when it came to what people liked using. There are a number of tech features that customers like using because they feels that it answers their needs, but at the same time there is a whole lot that don’t get used very often or are continually annoying, according to the survey.

...

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] scottmeme@sh.itjust.works 108 points 2 months ago (12 children)

Peak technology enjoyment in a car includes

  • multiple zone ac
  • heated/ventilated seats
  • real buttons and not FUCKING CAPACITIVE TOUCH
  • android auto/apple car play
[–] Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 42 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There's some other minor tech that's fairly nice that I haven't seen in cheaper cars. Lights under the door to light up the ground on dark nights for when you're getting out. Just solid utilitarian tech right there.

[–] MeatsOfRage@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

My single piece of favorite car tech is the cruise control that follows the cars ahead of you and brakes when necessary. I barely use my feet for driving anymore.

[–] papabobolious@feddit.nu 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I am entirely the opposite. I think cruise just makes driving less engaging and more boring.

Ideally I want everything to be manual, I even control every individual wiper swipe a lot of times if I am just driving along on a highway. Less boring, more engaging. Means I am more attentative on the road.

I do however understand I am a minority.

[–] katharta@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Fine for short trips, less fun on hours+ long drives. It's nice having options!

[–] papabobolious@feddit.nu 2 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I don't know what is considered a long trip for you but to me it's 6 hours plus, which I deal with no problems. I just think it makes driving more boring when there's less stuff to be in control of.

I live far away from my family and my wifes family so we drive a lot of 6-12 hour drives and I always drive the full stint. Doesn't bother me but I am not everyone.

load more comments (4 replies)
[–] Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Ah yea adaptive cruise control with lane assist is my jam.

[–] Zahille7@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I've been driving spoiled with Lane Keep Assist. I'd like to continue to keep that as a thing in all cars.

Also, I used a Ford Escape as a rental this weekend, and holy shit I hate having to wait for the startup animation to complete so I can finally mess with the A/C and have it going on full blast after sitting in the hot sun all day. My Santa Cruz has actual buttons for all the climate control stuff and I had no idea I'd miss it so much until now.

[–] SuperSaiyanSwag@lemmy.zip 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Also, adaptive cruise control

[–] Pavidus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I'm fine with adaptive cruise, however, I would also like to be able to turn it off quickly and easily if the situation calls for it.

[–] vithigar@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Tapping the brakes has immediately turned off cruise control in every vehicle I've ever driven.

[–] Pavidus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I was referring specifically to the adaptive part, and going back to dumb cruise. I wasn't clear, my apologies.

[–] vithigar@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Can you explain a scenario where that would be necessary? Given that adaptive cruise slows you down below your target speed to follow traffic all I can see that doing is either nothing on an open road, or accelerating you into the vehicle in front of you.

[–] Pavidus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I use it all the time on the highway.

[–] vithigar@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That doesn't explain anything. I'll be more clear.

Can you explain why it would be necessary to suddenly need to turn off adaptive cruise and switch to fixed speed cruise?

[–] Pavidus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Sure. When I set the cruise, it is because I would like to go a certain speed. I'll pass if I need to. Setting the cruise to 70 and then realizing you're traveling 65 behind someone on the highway is annoying. Furthermore, it reduces fuel economy gaining back the speed that got scrubbed off. Additionally, I prefer to be a consistent driver. Varying speeds while the cruise is set seems counterintuitive at times when the traffic is light.

[–] vithigar@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Surely you notice that you're coming up on someone and can switch to the left lane before you're close enough that the adaptive cruise starts slowing you down though? It kind of sounds like you just don't want adaptive cruise at all, since you want to turn it off any time it "adapts".

[–] Pavidus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (3 children)

You made it! That's the point. They are 2 different tools for 2 different situations. One sets a constant speed. The other follows the flow of traffic. Glad I could clear that up for you. I'll continue to use both.

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] SuperSaiyanSwag@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Isn’t it just a press of a button to turn it off?

[–] Pavidus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

I replied to another comment on this as well. I wasn't very clear with what I meant, my apologies. I was referring to turning the adaptive part off, and going back to just regular old cruise control.

[–] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Lane keep assist is annoying AF when you live in a place where you're required by law to cross the double yellow when going around bicycles. You get in a steering wheel fight with the car until you find the menu to temporarily disable it. After next stop-start cycle mid-errand, it's on again by default thanks to US law.

[–] Zahille7@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I mean just using your turn signal turns it off in most cars...

Maybe do that?

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

I have to say I prefer launching climate control from my phone before I ever get in the car. And also I'd rather have the cabin try to keep a temperature automatically instead of forcing me to dick with the temp of the blowing air.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I'd rather just have a standard size bank up front, like, 3DIN, and choose my own "car computer". Have security locking support, guarantee certain power supply, impact, and temperature conditions. And then open up the "car console" market.

And let me be able to upgrade it five or ten years down the road.

If they want to provide a standard first-party center panel offering, fine. But computers and phones have a shorter life than do cars, and I don't want to be locked into ancient or badly-chosen controls and computers. This "car is a big cell phone" thing is just godawful from a consumer standpoint.

[–] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 2 months ago

That would be amazing. I miss the days of swapping my head for one I want. Blaupunkt MiniDisc here we go!

[–] Steve@communick.news 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

After having used both Android Auto and Apple Car Play.
I really prefer having a good phone mount, that puts my phone in a glance-able place near the wheel.
That, and quality Bluetooth Audio.

[–] SuperSpruce@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Nobody is mentioning heads-up displays? That's peak tech. The info is right there without having to move your eyes off the road.

[–] 9bananas@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

because barely anyone even knows about HUDs, since there are barely any vehicles in the "won't cost you both kidneys" price segment with HUDs in them...

...but yes, they really should be in every car. it's just a no-brainer for safety, for the exact reason you said: simply having your speed right in your field of view alone is worth it!

[–] SuperSpruce@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 months ago

I feel like a HUD is only in expensive cars because it's a very useful feature people actually want.

[–] GroundedGator@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (3 children)

How about the unnecessary tech that just shouldn't be allowed.

  • Doors that are not primarily manual to open or unlock.
  • Touchscreen of any type. I'm okay with capacitive touch buttons but they should be in a fixed location and physically distinguishable from other surfaces.
  • Electronic e-brake
  • Replacement of any of the main driving functions with anything that is not physical and tactile (turn signals, windshield wipers, headlights)

At least in the US I feel like technology has leapfrogged regulation.

[–] vithigar@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 months ago

Touchscreen of any type

I think a touchscreen is fine as long as real buttons exist for things a driver might want to manipulate while driving. My Outlander has a fairly large touchscreen that offers media and navigation control, but everything else (climate, drive modes, cruise control/drive assists, windows, locks, etc) is real buttons and dials, and there are also an extra set of basic media controls on physical buttons as well (volume, next/prev track, tuning).

I'm quite happy with that. And the passenger still gets all the touchscreen bells and whistles if they want to explore the map or set up playlists or whatever.

[–] buzz86us@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Electronic doors can just fuck right off.. Just another thing to break.. I'd even go so far to say motorized windows these are great until the motor dies and you can't shut the window.

[–] 9bananas@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

I've seen waaay more manual handles break than electric windows...but that might be somewhat biased by the sheer age of most of the cars with manual windows...still, rarely ever even heard of an electric one breaking...is that common where you live?

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Electronic e-brake

I hate electronic e-brakes. How am I supposed to impress women with handbrake turns without a hand brake?

[–] 9bananas@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

i absolutely love it when it's paired with manual transmission and an auto-break function:

when you stop, for example at a red light, and press the break while standing still for a bit, it goes into auto-break mode.

when you then release the clutch while in gear (neutral gets ignored), it automatically releases the hand break, so you can perform a hand break assisted start from standstill without having to touch the actual hand break!

this is excellent when you've stopped at an incline, and generally really useful!

but i get the skepticism...i was extremely skeptical at first too, but you get used to it quickly and then it feels weird when it's missing or turned off in another car... there's just no reason not to use this feature it's simply great!

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

My car has that and a manual handbrake and, yes, it is quite nice.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago
[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Based on this MKBHD/Auto Zone video the way to get real buttons and sensible features is to buy a minivan.

[–] scottmeme@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago

Can't say that I would buy a minivan, because I hate them.

But my car (Hyundai Azera) has all physical AC buttons and it's great. But it shows the temp on the touchscreen which is unfortunately kinda fundamental to this car from what I've found.

One of the reasons I mentioned android auto, I just have a AAwireless adapter right now, had a Motorola M1 which died. But that is basically all I need other than a charger which I have a 100w type c for that.

Sorry kinda rambled for a bit

[–] tal@lemmy.today 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I'd say that that kind of imposes a size restriction, but honestly, the crossovers that everyone seems to buy are about the same size as those these days anyway.

[–] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Comfortable seats

A suspension that is comfortable over bumps, but not floaty or bouncy and slightly firm under compression.

[–] Asidonhopo@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

My current ride is peak technology imho:

  • Crank windows
  • Cold, manually adjustable seats
  • 5 speed transmission
  • Knobs and levers, minimal buttons
  • MSRP under $10k--
[–] RadicallyBland@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago
  • lane assist
  • adaptive cruise
[–] AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago

You'd like the 2020+ Q50 then