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The territorial violation by China is the latest in a series of events amplifying tensions between Beijing and Japan.

A Chinese military surveillance plane breached Japanese airspace off the country’s southwestern coast on Monday, marking what Japan’s defense ministry described as the first known incursion by China’s military into its territorial airspace.

According to a ministry official, a Chinese reconnaissance aircraft briefly entered Japanese territory near Nagasaki Prefecture around 11:30 a.m. on Monday. In response, Japan’s Self-Defense Force put fighter jets on high alert and issued a warning to the Chinese aircraft.

While Chinese planes frequently appear in international airspace around Japan, this incident represents the first confirmed entry of a military aircraft into Japan’s territorial airspace.

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[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 163 points 2 months ago (70 children)

My reckless, irresponsible “solution” would be to just shoot ’em the fuck down. It’s a good thing I’m not in charge of Japanese border security. I’d probably start World War 3.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 88 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Meh, Turkey shot down a Russian jet and nothing happened a handful of years back. Can you really be that mad when a fighter breaching protected airspace is shot down?

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 25 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's not about "mad", it's about pushing boundaries. If they decide they want to...

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 35 points 2 months ago (1 children)

it’s about pushing boundaries.

China is going to keep pushing boundaries until they get punched in the mouth.

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They need a bigger plane that can just drop a net on the other plane and tow it in to Japan and give the pilot a stern talking to, and then they take the plane apart and send it back in a box. Dismantling the pilot optional.

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[–] limonfiesta@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Yes, you can.

Russia and Turkey have very different political dynamics than China and Japan.

Also, these types of airspace incursions, followed by intercepts, are pretty standard amongst major powers.

It doesn't mean they're benign, but that shooting down Chinese planes intentionally as a response, is something you do if you're willing and ready for the escalation path to result in open conflict, not simply an escalation.

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[–] Cyberjin@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Turkey isn't reliant on Russia, while Japan is very reliant on China.

China is a baby when it comes to politics, gets mad and never apologizes over the smallest thing.

Example when Australia said they wanted an investigation for COVID. China quickly took offense and banned coal, beef and wine imports.

Another example when Japan released Fukushima water into Ocean (following protocol). China got mad because Japan were "polluting" the water, so they banned fish imports from Japan. Irony is that China does it way worse and unregulated.

Just think what this airplane could start if they shoot it down.

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[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 22 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I've got a better solution for you: wall of chain guns firing a curtain of giant bullets straight up all the time. All approved flights will be directed through the part of the curtain that'll be reloading in sync with their breach.

[–] ProfessorScience@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago

Is this the Simpsons approach? "I'm just going to fire my chain guns like this, and if you get shot down it's your own fault!"

[–] Gestrid@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Unfortunately, bullets fired straight up need to... come down. And the wind means it won't always land in the same spot.

I still remember some idiot fired a pistol or something straight up at a local fireworks show a few years ago. A little boy died. It was really sad. I don't think they ever found the guy who did it, either.

... I just googled it. That was ten years ago. Dang...

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

I mean sometimes they didn't even mean to be in your airspace, the instruments on the craft just went goofy and now they're lost. It wouldn't be cool to shoot someone down just because they don't know where they are.

(Not saying this is what happened, just that it can happen)

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[–] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That ought to be fun with all the border disputes. Some islands are claimed by 4 (well, 5) nations:

  • Japan
  • South Korea
  • North Korea (because they claim the south and all their claims)
  • Taiwan
  • China
[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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