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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 113 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

As usual, national polls mean nothing since we don't have national elections.

But let's see where it stands in the states that count, all of these numbers are from before the DNC and Kennedy dropping out, so we'll need a re-run in a week or two. I'm also adding some states people have been talking about.

Arizona: Toss up. Tie, Trump +1 +2
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/arizona/

Nevada: Harris +6, +8, +10
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/nevada/

New Mexico: Harris +8, +9
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/new-mexico/

Texas: Trump +5, +6
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/texas/

Georgia: Trump +1, +4
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/georgia/

Florida: Trump +5, +8
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/florida/

North Carolina: Toss up. Tie, Harris +1
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/north-carolina/

Virginia: Harris +3
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/virginia/

Pennsylvania: Toss up. Harris +1, +2, Trump +1
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/pennsylvania/

Michigan: Harris +6, +7, +8
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/michigan/

Wisconsin: Harris +6, +7, +8
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/wisconsin/

Minnesota: Harris +5, +7, +10
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/minnesota/

Huge shifts in Nevada, New Mexico, Michigan and Wisconsin which, under Biden, were a loss to Trump and shortly before the official shift were still barely Trump.

Trump is up in Texas, but only +5 or +6 which is consistent with the +6 win in 2020 and +9 in 2016.

Florida and Georgia are not the toss up states people are making them out to be.

The Muslim Pro-Gaza vote has had 0 impact in Michigan. Still Harris' race to lose there.

Overall, this is the best showing for the Democrats so far this year, let's plot it on the map:

Of the three toss up states, a win in either PA or NC puts Harris over the top. Arizona does not. She's 2 short if she gets AZ but not PA or NC.

Trump needs BOTH PA and NC to hit exactly 270. PA + AZ he's at 265. NC + AZ he's at 262.

This is really the first time in months that the electoral math has been going away from Trump.

[–] 2pt_perversion@lemmy.world 31 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Good write up. National polls don't mean shit and this is far from a done deal as you've shown.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 24 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I'll be sitting up all night on November 5th with spreadsheets. :)

[–] aniki@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 weeks ago

🤮 I'm going to the mountains far from any signal save short wave radio.

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If you have a YT or Twitch stream, please share.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

LOL, I seriously doubt OnlyFans is down for that sweet spreadsheet action, but you never know!

[–] Vandals_handle@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Depends what's spread on the sheets

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago

That's my fetish. Don't kink shame!

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Hero now, but man, people hated it when the numbers were down...

Using the same methodology, here's where Harris started just a month ago:

https://lemmy.world/comment/11351665

[–] Keineanung@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

Thanks a lot for the detailed breakdown.

Excellent summarization. 🍻

[–] nifty@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

If this holds true, which is unlikely without strong voter turnout, then Harris just needs PA or NC.

[–] Sweetpeaches69@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

As a New Mexican, those polls had to have been erroneous. There's no way in hell the state would have turned red, not for Trump. The last time our state was red in the general election was 2004, and before that, 1988. You all don't have to worry about us, but I will gladly attend a Harris/Walz rally here.