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Würde es mir auch. Ich habe es nur in meinem gesamten Autofahrerleben noch nicht ein einziges Mal erlebt. Und das ist ein Problem.

Siehe Busspur. Da fahren die entsprechenden Nasen mit ihren geleasten Prollkisten auch einfach mit 70 an den stehenden Autos vorbei.

Ahh, finally! So this is where we are going here.

It is not even “Russia’s war”.

Who invaded, then? Who massacred settlements like Bucha? Who declared that Ukraine isn't a state but a part of Russia?

Are you aware of how Crimea was made a part of Ukraine in 1995?

No, I am not. Because Crimea was already a part of Ukraine beforehand (1954/1992), acknowledged by Russia. But I wonder what your point is? Ukraine deserved this war?

Jetzt hat sobanto was zum runterwählen, gut gemacht! ;)

You’re still whatabouting here.

Pointing out that you yourself do not abide by the bold general statements you chose to make here is not whataboutism. That you permanently try to avoid any statement regarding Russia's war and these laws doesn't help you and your position either..

I dislike the law that makes them a criminal. That’s a different thing.

What makes you think this is different here? I don't know her, but I think 15 years of penal colony for a 45€ donation is absolutely ridiculous. Especially, as the underlying war of aggression is - as we hopefully both agree?? - wrong. Why you choose to defend this is beyond me.

I still can’t see why Assange having been kept in prison for something that should not be illegal is relevant here.

Your words:

But I guess everyone here has a problem with people who violate the law. Now I can see that the laws in Russia are not what you, personally, think is right. FWIW, each country has laws which other countries don’t agree with.

He's in violation of the law just as much as this ballerina. One of them you defend, the other not.

I support the endeavours of every country and every people to counter supranationalism (“strong state EU”, “strong state USA”, that sort of thing) with sovereignty.

Then you should have a critical opinion on Russia's imperialistic adventures in its neighbouring country and the laws ensuing this aggression. Or does this support conveniently only include those countries under attack/pressure from "the West"?

As I said, two wrongs don’t make a right.

No one is trying to make this point. The point is that you defend the victim of American "unfair" laws but not the victim of Russian "unfair" laws, making your argument seem rather shallow.

Wenn für dich die Ukraine kein souveränes Land ist, können ihr die Waffen auch nicht gehören! tippt sich an den Rosa-Luxemburg-Gedächtnis-Dutt

I openly denounced the fact that our “friends” from the “Western values” are imprisoning a journalist for doing his job. I demanded that they raise their laws to a non-dictatorial level. The fact that international and national law are not always the same thing has once again been clearly demonstrated here. But what does this excursion into whataboutism have to do with the criminals being prosecuted in Russia?

So "I like criminals if the victim is someone I don’t like!” is apparently something you are as equally guilty of as those you are trying to attribute it here. It would have been more consistent for your standpoint if you had actually also applied it towards those criminals you feel inclined to.

Treason is not only a crime during a war.

It is not. But as you can read in the article, it has recently been tightened in line with fear of growing criticism of the Russian war of aggression. Of course you might choose to defend this. Maybe as it isn't, for a change, a war of - your words and punctuation - our "friends" of "Western values" and some might find it challenging to escape from their traditional world view with America as the force behind wars. Or maybe because you simply support Russian nationalism and aggression, I don't know. It is, however, a very strange look and a weird hill to die on.

Nur hinter einem steckt gründliches Nachdenken.

Assange was held in accordance with the law, although I personally don’t think journalism should be penalised.

So you didn't object his prosecution? Can we make this point clear? Although you personally don't think journalism should be penalised, you were okay with him living the life he did for the last years and openly said so?

I understand that the Russian laws don’t suit you.

Yup, especially since we are talking about those that have been imposed or tightened in line with Russia's invasion. I oppose these laws as I oppose their cause: the barbaric and imperialistic war Russia brings to Ukraine until this very day. And so should you, btw.

(Almost) Nobody here likes autocrats, my friend.

Yet I have the feeling I found one of the few that does.

I guess everyone here has a problem with people who violate the law. Now I can see that the laws in Russia are not what you, personally, think is right. FWIW, each country has laws which other countries don’t agree with.

Alrighty, let's put that to the test: do you want Snowden and Assange locked up behind bars?

e: "Runterwählen ist kein Gegenargument", don't forget that.. ;)

"I like autocrats if others are the victims!"