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[–] Inucune@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

People getting wise to the military. Many would defend their country, but don't want to die for an oil company to make an extra thousand. Guessing which is more likely is left as an exercise for the reader.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, catch me joining the army when we're fighting actual nazis again. Til then I'm good at home

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

"... til then I'm good at home." Funny, that's most likely where you'll have to kill some Nazis next.

[–] el_abuelo@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

And the good thing is you'll have plenty of warning because your government is unlikely to join the war against the nazis for a good couple of years into the war against the nazis.

I jest....but kinda not really given current US foreign policy (or that of the past 100yrs tbh)

[–] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

If Nazis touch our boats, we will get involved. We really don't like it when someone touches our boats.

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Dude should have just walked down to the local mechanic. Better pay and hours

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Would a local mechanic train a stranger who had zero knowledge?

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago (3 children)

The Army doesn't either. He scored highly on the test for that.

[–] RobertoOberto@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago

The ASVAB tests for aptitude, hence the name, not the ability to step into a job without training. Looks up practice questions for the Mechanical Comprehension portion to see the kinds of questions that might suggest someone could be a good mechanic.

The U.S. army absolutely does provide training to its mechanics, and does not assume people know jack shit coming in. I scored high enough on the MM portion of the ASVAB to be one and don't don't know a damn thing about fixing vehicles.

[–] somethingsnappy@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

My parents didn't let me or my sister to go to school on the ASVAB test day. They didn't want recruiters contacting them constanty.

[–] RobertoOberto@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

That's probably for the best.

I spent 4 years in the USMC and have a very complicated relationship with my time enlisted. There is a lot I'm proud of, but there's also a lot that would be nice to forget.

[–] idiomaddict@feddit.de 0 points 3 months ago
[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I thought the army gave recruits an IQ test and then trained them for what it thought they were good for.

[–] RobertoOberto@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

Some portions of the ASVAB have questions very similar to those you might find on an IQ test, but it is much more broad than just IQ.

[–] Halosheep@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Idk man, friend of mine works as a mechanic for the airforce and makes ~78k/yr, gets a large housing bonus, and has access to military loans that have really good terms, comparatively.

Ignoring the whole military lifestyle bs that he has to go through, it's not that bad for someone who really doesn't know what to do with themselves.

[–] als@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The US army uses basic socialist policies (we will help you if you're dying from cancer etc) to recruit. It only works because the US state refuses to take care of its subjects. The moment people are no longer desperate, the recruitment numbers will fall.

[–] Ragnarok314159@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Except if you get cancer while in they medically discharge you and leave you with nothing. “Go file with the VA!”

I was in for ten years and saw it happen multiple times.

[–] TheOakTree@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

I heard people got respiratory cancers specifically from being in the military and having been instructed to burn piles of trash without proper safety equipment.

And then they got discharged, fucked over sideways by the VA, and died. Welp.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 2 points 3 months ago

I don't know if trying to recruit 4channers is a bottom of the barrel scraping, or just a clear view of how they see every recruit.

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Gustephan@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Be on site military contractor

Told I'll be making infinitemoney.jpg

Actually make slightlymorethangs.jpg but with no pension

Tfw ptsd from analyzing combat footage

Tfw actively and daily shunned as "not one of us, just a dirty filthy contractor"

Tfw you can't get another engineering job because your entire portfolio is classified

Tfw when there is no mental health support or support groups available for aforementioned "just a dirty filthy contractor" reasons

Decide to go back to college instead of killing self

Check brand new school email

"Hi, my name is Sgt Fuckface! Here at the national guard we're looking for promising young graduates like you"

[–] Loonesota@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I mean it's obviously total bullshit as is, but the fucking link at the bottom really seals the deal... I'm totally convinced now...

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de 0 points 3 months ago

Weird, why would it be a .com link as opposed to .gov or .mil?

[–] Crismus@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They forget the part where the signing bonus doesn't exist after they finish BCT.

[–] Loonesota@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

How so? Is it a flat out lie, or are there costs associated with BCT?

Very funny either way, as I was thinking about signing on as a last ditch effort to set myself up a few years ago, but I ended up getting forklift certification and a CDL, and have been doing just fine since.

[–] Crismus@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I know that when I joined up in 1997 a lot of those bonuses simply disappeared if you didn't keep ahold of your original paperwork. Sometimes they had a lot of hidden clauses, so you could lose the bonus for a minor infraction. Or, the bonus was really part of your pay and the full amount would be paid out after if you actually completed 8 years instead of the 2-4 year commitment you started on.

All I know is I personally ended up permanently disabled at 18 and fought with the VA until 2019 to get my disability compensation. Which they only paid me back pay from 2009 instead of from the date of disability in 1997.

Getting money from the government takes a long time. The people downwind of the Atomic test sites have been fighting 50+ years for the full payments from being irradiated during the 50's.

But hey, joining the military is a good job if you aren't stupid and taking a combat MOS when you could have a steady non-combat job with perks. Right now the Commissary benefits for cheap food is worth it with how food prices have been going.

[–] Ragnarok314159@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 months ago

Yeah, it’s shit that they backdate stuff from your intent to file date. There was a lawsuit that made it to SCOTUS about equitable tolling, and to everyone’s non-surprise all nine judges voted against it. Can’t give a bunch of vets a windfall, need to keep up poor.

When I got out, I filed three times and every time it was “lost”. Sorry, dude, file again. Hahaha fuck you!

Was convinced to file again during Covid and the process had completely changed. Was all digital, no more lost paperwork. Took almost two years, got it all sorted out

[–] psmgx@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They're all over Reddit man

[–] Isoprenoid@programming.dev 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

At least we're safe here on Lemmy.

^γvɒn^ ^ǝʜɈ^ ^nioį^

[–] oce@jlai.lu 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Join Yvan? You mean join Lemmygrad?

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 points 3 months ago

Have you considered that Glorious Leader Putin is invading Ukraine to restore the Soviet Union and fight Nazis, not because he's a fascist twatwaffle funding the rise of the global far right and murdering his neighbors for power and money?