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A few weeks ago i was walking my dog around 11pm, and a driver jokingly did a brake torque as we were crossing the street. He was maybe 3 feet away from us.

After yelling at each other, he threatened to kill me and my dog the next time he saw us. As I pulled my camera he peeled out and hurled a racial comment my way. Sadly, there was so much movement i couldnt get the plate, and i didnt get anything that happened before that on camera.

So I got a body cam to wear for all my walks. Unfortunately, this is not the only time people have been racist and threatened my life so I’m just tired of it and hoping it might encourage people to behave. Feels lame, but it does provide some comfort. Does anyone else do the same?

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[–] M137@lemmy.world 60 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Don't downvote someone correcting spelling. They did it with no apparent snark.

[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 3 points 2 months ago

On the other hand, there's probably also almost no reason to upvote it. OP will see it, there's no need for it to be the top comment.

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[–] PonyOfWar@pawb.social 38 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No, as that would be illegal in many situations in my country. I also don't want cameras pointed at me constantly, so I don't do that to other people either.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Can you not have dash cams?

[–] PonyOfWar@pawb.social 14 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Dashcams are legally controversial in Germany. Generally the common opinion is that they're only allowed if they quickly delete all recorded data and only save it if there was an actual accident.

The problem with a bodycam is that while it's allowed to film in public, it's not allowed to film specific people without their permission. So it would be fine to film a busy street without focusing on any people in particular, but going into a store with your bodycam where it would film your interaction with the cashier would be illegal.

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[–] nichtburningturtle 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The thing is, that your dashcam usually stays on public property / public spaces, while a bodycam could easily film someone on private property. Therefore OP would likely have limitations on where they are allowed to film, similarly to an IRL streamer.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago

If they live in a single party consent state, then it’s no problem.

In other places it probably isn’t illegal, but might not be admissible as evidence in a lawsuit.

[–] nomugisan@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 2 months ago

Seems sort of insane for daily wear, but I think having a camera for walks or jogs isn't the worst idea if you've got the money. I'd make sure the security and privacy of the camera and recorder are tip-top though

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago (2 children)

This is crazy - where does this happen that it sounds so normalized? How terrible it must be to live in an environment that allows this

[–] Gerudo@lemm.ee 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

My wife isn't white. She gets slurs thrown at her all the time just out of the blue.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Crazy, sorry to hear about that.

I think humans do have a tendency to stereotype people but how does that evolve into a full blow hate is just beyond me. I imagine it's an equivalent of losing your mind to a overly packed mushroom shake because you really have to be demented to fall into such behavior.

[–] houstoneulers@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

This latest incident happened in middle america. But it's happened to me on the coasts as well.

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[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, if you have a habit of confronting people in public when they've been assholes (and make no mistake, he was an asshole who deserves a beating), it probably would be a good idea. Or if you live in an area where these sorts of things regularly occur to you.

What possible outcome could you possibly expect from contronting someone who had done that? Just keep walking man. It sucks, but it's not like you're ever getting an apology.

[–] houstoneulers@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

I disagree. Not confronting them just encourages them to continue to keep it up.

And honestly, i do have a habit of confronting people (now) since others are often so likely to just not say anything against the bad behavior while others resort to victim shaming.

You're right though. Something could happen, and now I think I will take the precautions to ensure I'm prepared for such moments.

[–] DeathByDenim@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Sort of. I wear a camera while cycling because there are a lot of angry people in cars that have some weird hatred towards people using a bicycle.

[–] houstoneulers@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

Actually, this is sorta what motivated me. Since I watch those angry driver youtube videos, I often see the need for cyclist/bikers.

[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That sucks that it's got to the point you feel like you need it but to be honest even just as a deterrent (even if you or others think it looks goofy to wear one) would be WELL worth it to wear one. I don't think it requires outside validation for that.

[–] houstoneulers@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Yea, I'm not super young but definitely not old, but this makes probably the 15th or 16th time I've dealt with such incidences. If people were more likely to be vocal about it and reprimand their behavior publicly, I'd feel safer. But no one ever has. And many of those incidences have involved stated death threats. This doesn't include aggressions when I'm in a group of peers either. Of course when I'm with them, they all have my back. But alone? Nah.

I wish i could say this was all just my time in the bible belt, but this has happened in large, blue cities where I'd hoped I'd have more community support. This last incident was one of those cities.

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

In addition to the camera (of which I would recommend one of those camera glasses, so it's always pointing where you're looking), start carrying a visible brick, too. While crossing the street, make it SUPER visible that you have one. It's not illegal to carry a brick, but it informs wanker motorists that you can, and will, use it. I have a mate in New York that does this, and taxis stopped cutting him off while he was crossing the street. He still gets slurs thrown his way, but sticks and stones and all that.

[–] houstoneulers@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

lmao, idk if I'm going to go that far. But given that in my encounters no one stops to either help or stick around for the cops to help confirm the circumstances...

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[–] houstoneulers@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for all the responses! It is a lame feeling as I do see it from others side (those that aren't being potentially violent assholes), but the cost of any one person having serious intent is too high now, especially since i've never had anyone say anything against the asshole's behavior.

With that said, having a camera has taken the edge off for me so I don't feel as confrontational, and I can just post them on the neighborhood app after walking away. But on the flip side, I now live in middle america...

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Keep using it. 99% of the time, people won't even notice or know what it is. Those that do may actually behave better knowing it's there. Nothing wrong with being prepared. Do you have a car dashcams? Same idea, better to have it ready the time comes.

Mine has saved me twice in the 6 years I've had it, first thing I did was buy the fiance at the time the same model, knowing it worked well for our needs.

[–] WolfmanEightySix@piefed.social 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

What’s a brake torque?

To answer your question, if this is a regular thing for you I’d say it was worth it. Although if you’re in the USA it’s probably just gonna lead to you getting shot.

[–] bert_macklin_fbi@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

A brake torque is something you can do while driving a car. You keep one foot on the brake, hit the gas with the other foot, and take your foot off the brake. Oftentimes, this results in propelling your car forward while squealing your tires.

A kind person would refrain from doing these at night or near neighborhoods.

[–] kokope11i@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

Us olds call this a burnout.

[–] tkk13909@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If it's not an obvious camera then a driver probably wouldn't notice it

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[–] pipe01@programming.dev 8 points 2 months ago

Maybe you could try those glasses that have a camera

[–] Kng@feddit.rocks 5 points 2 months ago

I have honestly been considering this but less for protection but more for preservation. I feel like the best way to capture what its like to live in the world of today is to just walk around and start recording mundane things. Sure this is much more prevalent than it used to be but oftentimes I find myself wishing I just had more photos of the places I used to frequent that are simply no longer in existance.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 4 points 2 months ago

No, but then I haven't had the kinds of experiences you've had.

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