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What the fuck

This just sounds like post partum depression to me.

As fucked up as this is, there's so little information given by this article that I can't even form an opinion on it.

You know what else I bet would jeopardize her professional career?

Also that's murder, not manslaughter.

Least psychopathic lawyer

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This is sad, and it’s a shame the prosecutors are only going to be interested in a conviction. This woman is obviously suffering, and needs medical help for her postpartum depression.

https://www.theatlantic.com/family/archive/2018/09/postpartum-psychosis-infanticide-when-mothers-kill-their-children/569386/

birth took place ten minutes prior to the tragic incident

Bro got spawn-killed

Hmmm. It looks like Germany has fairly strict limits on the availability of abortion; it's on-demand up to 12 weeks, but requires mandatory counseling first. It seems like perhaps expanding abortion access to on-demand up to the point of realistic fetal viability and eliminating the counseling requirement might--might--have led to a different outcome here.

I wonder if she had attempted to terminate her pregnancy prior to this point?

For the people saying that she should have just adopted the infant: that's extremely difficult for someone to do, even if they know that they don't want a child or are not capable of caring for it. I've seen multiple teens end up keeping children that they didn't plan on, didn't want, and had no means to care for, all because they couldn't go through with an adoption in the end.

Lots of heartless people in the comments who didn't read her side of this. Honestly, I sympathize with her almost entirely.

She didn't know she was pregnant. This is something that happens to women of her size sometimes. Not all pregnancies have the telltale symptoms. Sometimes you learn about your pregnancy as you're going into labor.

It's rare, but it absolutely happens.

She went from having a normal evening, to giving a natural birth alone in her apartment in a matter of about 20 minutes. She went from thinking she was having cramps to holding her newborn baby.

Within 10 minutes the baby had been dropped out of a window.

The amount of trauma this woman experienced, combined with the extreme and often immediate postpartum mental health issues, including psychosis, absolutely led to her making a completely irrational and tragic decision. I find it hard to swallow that she deserves punishment as if this were a long thought out plan to kill a child. This was a poorly handled crisis handled by a traumatized woman in a fugue state. She was not in a sound state of mind.

She doesn't deserve prison, she deserves compassion for what she's suffered and treatment for her mental ailments.

That they interrogated her and used her panic over her career against her as if she schemed to kill a child to further her career is honestly a disgusting angle to try to punish this woman. They opportunistically grilled a woman experiencing trauma so that they could throw the book at her.

Please give your children up for adoption instead, what the fuck

I guess she didn’t think infanticide would hurt it? She’s clearly not a good lawyer.

We need to make it so women don't have to feel this way..I thought Germany was fairly progressive like that, but obviously not enough.

I'm not sure she's actually wrong in the part about it Jeopardizing her career, because let's face it sometimes that's true. However did that not occur to her before she had the child? Surely she should have known that and not had a kid if that was her main priority.

Let's set aside motive and treat this woman's obvious problem with her mental health. The last thing she needs is criminal proceedings and punishment that achieves nothing apart from getting conservative dicks hard.

This is horrifying. Unfortunately this is a problem because most countries do not allow abortion after a certain period of pregnancy; and there is oftentimes no exceptions to this that isn't "a Rape charge on someone they might have slept with."

This means that certain women can get "stealth-ed" by someone^1^ and not realize they're pregnant until they're too late past the abortion deadline because of their biology and inexperience with being pregnant. It's also random and uncommon enough that authorities and lawmakers do not make accommodations for this situation.

^1^ - This also includes other situations such as uncommon birth control failures.

In this case; anti-abortion laws are intended to be cruel.

Unfortunately, women who are unknowingly pregnant also can't get help. I think it's likely the woman did not know she was pregnant until some point nearing the birth in the 8th or 9th month. If you're a woman who isn't native to the country, don't know it's laws, don't know where to get help and stuck on a business trip or company provided residency visa; I could see how easily one could be quite panicked.

I don't think she did the right thing. Unfortunately it's a rare case of some grey areas which too often we tend to treat like a black area of wrong.