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The motive behind Jovanovic's actions was reportedly her fear that motherhood would jeopardise her professional career as a lawyer for a prestigious car brand.

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[–] Naich@lemmings.world 11 points 1 month ago (5 children)

We need to make it so women don't have to feel this way..I thought Germany was fairly progressive like that, but obviously not enough.

[–] Pothetato@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

I mean sure but I think there's a few extra steps between "feeling" this way and fucking doing it.

[–] Kalkaline@leminal.space 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You can give someone access to all the help they need, but if they don't seek it out, there's not much you can do about it. It sounds like post partum depression may have played a role, that is real, but you can't force someone into treatment.

[–] ASDraptor@lemmy.autism.place 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

She threw the baby off the window 10 minutes after giving birth.

[–] Kalkaline@leminal.space 8 points 1 month ago
[–] ASDraptor@lemmy.autism.place 4 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I hope you'll agree with me that there are alternatives before throwing your newborn baby off the window as if it was a fucking napkin.

Even abandoning it in front of a church is more humane than what this bitch did.

[–] revelrous@sopuli.xyz 13 points 1 month ago

Don't know this lady's story. But post natal psychosis is a real tragic thing that can happen. This isnt the action of someone possessing their faculties.

Why when abortion is available would you carry to term -and then so impulsively act? If for whatever reason she didn't want the baby and couldn't get the abortion, she had months to come up with a better plan than 'throw it out a window'. Either she was undiagnosed with something the whole time, or the birth triggered a psychological episode imo.

[–] moody@lemmings.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Who throws napkins out the window?

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Strictly speaking it is not as bad as throwing a baby out of one.

[–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

No amount of progressivism can stop people from getting mental illnesses.

[–] passntrash@midwest.social 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Interesting take. I wonder if the headline was:

"New Father and former Porsche Executive Throws Newborn Off Balcony"

Your first thoughts would be how the system failed him and that Germany needs to do more to support fathers.

[–] revelrous@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 month ago

It is a bit depressing how many guys in this thread don't understand what pregnancy and childbirth can do to someone. Side effects may include: suicidal and homicidal urges. Google Postpartum Psychosis and Postpartum Depression.

Everyone is asking but why didn't she act in a sane way and give it up for adoption? Well, there are good odds she needed something prescribed to her to allow her to be sane. Pregnant people's bodies are undergoing major chemical changes, labor opens the floodgates. Which is why it is very important to make it easy and stigma free to let everyone out of the queue who does not want to ride the ride, and make healthcare accessible to those that do.

[–] Naich@lemmings.world 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Their point is to call out the sexist take in feigning sympathy for a child murderer when we all know the world wouldn’t do that shit if it was a man.

[–] Naich@lemmings.world -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Just brainless strawman shit then.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Calling out sexism in society isn't strawmaning.

[–] WldFyre@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Lmfao when men have to go through childbirth and have post partum depression then you'll have a point.

Until then, have fun winning arguments you made up in the shower you goof.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Men can go through those things.

And what about women who never have children?

What a terrible argument you’ve presented.

[–] WldFyre@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Men can go through those things.

Hwhat

And what about women who never have children?

Lol What about them? How does that affect our discussion of mothers going through post partum??

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Hwhat

Trans men exist.

lol What about them?

We were talking about sexism. You seemed to imply it only mattered for women who had given birth or suffered PPD.

[–] Naich@lemmings.world -1 points 1 month ago

You aren't calling out sexism, you are just inventing situations to get angry about.

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Pretty sure it's "fuck feminism". I've seen this plenty of times before.