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Struggling with manpower shortages, overwhelming odds and uneven international assistance, Ukraine hopes to find a strategic edge against Russia in an abandoned warehouse or a factory basement.

An ecosystem of laboratories in hundreds of secret workshops is leveraging innovation to create a robot army that Ukraine hopes will kill Russian troops and save its own wounded soldiers and civilians.

Defense startups across Ukraine — about 250 according to industry estimates — are creating the killing machines at secret locations that typically look like rural car repair shops.

Employees at a startup run by entrepreneur Andrii Denysenko can put together an unmanned ground vehicle called the Odyssey in four days at a shed used by the company. Its most important feature is the price tag: $35,000, or roughly 10% of the cost of an imported model.

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[–] Cobrachicken@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"Technology leaders to the United Nations and the Vatican worry that the use of drones and AI in weapons could reduce the barrier to killing and dramatically escalate conflicts."

Interesting read, didn't know the Vatican had "technology leaders".

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

They’ve a (small) army, and a very large intelligence network. Don’t forget the Vatican is basically a nation in its own right.

They’re probably pushing as much influence/manipulation online into elections as any one else is, except maybe Russia, China, Iran and NK

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

They’ve a (small) army,

With the most adorable uniforms.

(They are allowed sub machine guns along with those pikes when doing Pope guard duty.)

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If you think they’re “just” ceremonial… lol.

Yeah, a large aspect of their duties are protecting the pope but the Swiss guard are all trained by the Swiss army before going to Vatican City.

And while they do chiefly rely on soft power almost exclusively- and by no means are they capable of engaging in actual war fare- they are not incapable of smaller actions.

There’s an awful lot of shadows at the highest echelons of the catholic state (and a shit load of money and loot, too.)

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No, not ceremonial, just adorable.

Like I said, they also have sub machine guns.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

It’s a little orange, you ask me.

I prefer the beefeater’s:

Though if you want to talk about silly hats… there’s that amusing display at the Pakistan-India border.m, during the changing of the guards.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

This is optimal camouflage when hiding in front of a church mural.

[–] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They’ve a (small) army

On hire.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

As apposed to what? Conscription?

[–] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 1 points 1 month ago

More like soldiers than their army.

[–] einkorn 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There is nothing quite like a war to drive technological innovation...

[–] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

See a need, fill a need.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Come to Ukraine, we have:

Dire Wheelchair

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

For the elderly or disabled dire wolf who still wishes to see combat.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Why didn't the Adeptus Mechanicus design dreadnoughts around remote workers? Are they stupid?

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago

For one the dreadnought sarcophagus is pretty much its own computer platform by itself, also do you really trust whatever crackhead internet system still exists in 40k. A virus would quite literally give you aids, porn is capable making you do a refer madness type bs, and there are Tzeenchian memetic hazards about. Combat footage is safe though, its a joint venture between the Administratum and Khorn.

[–] radivojevic@discuss.online 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The British version was much better, IMO.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robot_Wars_(TV_series)

Also, I attended a live robot battle event at DragonCon around the same time. It was lots of fun.

[–] Drusas@kbin.run 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Despite it obviously being hugely popular (those crowds! Those smelly, smelly crowds!), I think this is the first time I've ever seen or heard somebody mention DragonCon "in the wild".

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It was a lot less commercial back in the 90s. And you could do things like just walk up to a celebrity to shake their hand and say hi and not get charged any money for it.

[–] Drusas@kbin.run 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, those days are gone. I haven't been in years, but I'm sure they still have good panels and such. But nothing is free and everything has a line.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I went to Indy ComiCon last year and that was bad enough. Never again.

[–] Drusas@kbin.run 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah, my last con was PAX West some...6(?) years ago. Don't see myself attending another. I did get some really fantastic dice there, though. Jade. I love jade. And a nice art print. Still, I've just kind of had enough of them now that they're all so crowded and expensive.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 1 points 1 month ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


An ecosystem of laboratories in hundreds of secret workshops is leveraging innovation to create a robot army that Ukraine hopes will kill Russian troops and save its own wounded soldiers and civilians.

Defense startups across Ukraine — about 250 according to industry estimates — are creating the killing machines at secret locations that typically look like rural car repair shops.

That includes making fiberglass cargo beds, spray-painting the vehicles gun-green and fitting basic electronics, battery-powered engines, off-the-shelf cameras and thermal sensors.

The military is assessing dozens of new unmanned air, ground and marine vehicles produced by the no-frills startup sector, whose production methods are far removed from giant Western defense companies’.

Mykhailo Fedorov, the deputy prime minister for digital transformation, is encouraging citizens to take free online courses and assemble aerial drones at home.

Technology leaders to the United Nations and the Vatican worry that the use of drones and AI in weapons could reduce the barrier to killing and dramatically escalate conflicts.


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