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[–] TacoButtPlug@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why not make an airline for people with kids and then they could deck the inside of the plane out to make it fun for kids complete with a flying tube sized playground, maybe a mini arcade, and definitely a ball pit. The pilots could even be those creepy ass animatronic creatures from Chuck-E-Cheese.

[–] atticus88th@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That would make people happy which is the opposite of what the airline industry wants to have happen.

[–] Krachsterben@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

Or it's simply not economically viable to use half of the airplane as a playground, because parents will never be willing to spend 2x the amount on flight tickets because they're perpetually broke

[–] PseudoSpock@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Please don't fly with your kids, especially babies, and if you do, please for the love of all that might be holy, don't do it in business and first class!

[–] ShrimpsIsBugs@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Lol. I'm also not the biggest fan of children, but what are the parents supposed to do? Not having vacation? Leave them home alone? Throw them out the window on the drive to the airport?

[–] CaptFeather@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They can pick a vacation where they don't have to fly... They chose to have kids and that comes with a lot of baggage.

[–] veng@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why would they care about your opinion enough to not go on holiday where they want? If you want to fly without the chance of noisy kids then fly first class, or better still, private jet.

No? Can't afford? Suck it up then lol, people are going to live their lives regardless of a bit of noise that you can easily cancel out with headphones.

[–] ArcticLynx@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No? Can't afford? Suck it up then lol, people are going to live their lives regardless of a bit of noise that you can easily cancel out with headphones.

hell yeah, fuck them poor people

[–] coaxil@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why do you need to fly for vacation? When did flying for vacation become mandatory?

[–] Enigma@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s not. But it’s much easier to deal with kids on a 2hr flight than it is to deal with them on a multiple day drive. And just because I have kids doesn’t mean I have to choose the more difficult option. I say this as a parent who has driven across the country with my kids, multiple times.

[–] ArcticLynx@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But it’s much easier to deal with kids on a 2hr flight than it is to deal with them on a multiple day drive

"I'll make everyone's flight miserable because I don't want to experience the bad consequences of my choices"

And just because I have kids doesn’t mean I have to choose the more difficult option.

you did choose the more difficult option the moment you chose to have children. having children comes with inconveniences and because that's your choice to have children you have to deal with the consequences, not others

[–] Enigma@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lmao yes, I have to make my life more difficult because I chose to have kids. That makes perfect sense.

[–] ArcticLynx@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

'your choices, your consequences'

not 'your choices, everyone else's consqeuences'

it isn't that hard to understand is it? your entitlement is insane

[–] Enigma@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lmao dude. Get off your high horse. Your comfort doesn’t trump mine and vice versa. If anyone is entitled here, it’s you, believing that parents have to always go out of their way to make sure everyone else is comfortable just because they have kids and you don’t.

[–] ArcticLynx@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

parents have child => parents are inconvinienced by child => others who have nothing to do with parents and their child should be inconvenienced instead of the parents

following your logic, complete strangers should have to pay the kindergarten for your child. after all just because you chose to have children doesn't mean that you have to be inconvenienced (by paying money for it) and others don't, right?

[–] Enigma@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

First of all dipshit, you do pay for kindergarten. Via taxes. What are you, 12?

Like I said, my comfort doesn’t trump yours and your comfort doesn’t trump mine. Either deal with the fact that kids will be on flights or stop flying. Or become a member of congress and try to pass a law barring kids from planes.

[–] ArcticLynx@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

First of all dipshit, you do pay for kindergarten. Via taxes. What are you, 12?

of course tax money is used to pay for kindergarten too but at least in my country you pay something like 15 euros per day yourself

also, I could've said babysitter too. or clothes. or food. or something else, it doesn't matter. my point still stands

Like I said, my comfort doesn’t trump yours and your comfort doesn’t trump mine. Either deal with the fact that kids will be on flights or stop flying.

Like I said, your choice your discomfort and my chioce my discomfort. Either deal with the fact that cartain choices have consequences or make different choices

seriously tho, you're making your self-made problem everyone else's

that's like me burning my car and saying "yeah I made the choice to burn my car and I knew of the consequences, but why should only I have to pay for the damage and not others as well? their comfort doesn't trump mine"

[–] Colour_me_triggered@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah ok I'll just fucking have my kids put down at the vet before I go on holiday! Get a fucking grip!

[–] riceandbeans161@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

don’t go on holiday if you have cum pets. You chose that when you couldn’t keep it in your pants.

[–] Hupf@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

One kind of people makes humanity not go extinct in the near future.

[–] toxicbubble@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

humans are an overpopulated and invasive species, there are millions of human children waiting to be fostered

[–] ArcticLynx@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Genetics isn't destiny, but a lot of important traits are highly heritable. Consider for example the heritability of IQ. I can see why someone who considers him or herself a good specimen would want children more like him or herself than like the sort of person whose children are likely to end up needing to be adopted.

[–] ArcticLynx@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

yeah that actually makes sense

[–] Holyginz@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you unable or unwilling to take care of your child to keep them from making a scene and bothering people your child has no business being on a plane.

[–] Sheeprevenge@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How don't you know how children work?

[–] ArcticLynx@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

I know how they work: if the parents don't take it at the plane, it will not annoy other people

[–] nyakojiru@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Seems that everyone forgets they were kids once . I mean, we were not born adults and intolerant, right?...

[–] RealEarthHuman@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's irrelevant. Yes, we were all kids once. That doesn't make children any less annoying to travel with.

[–] dopeshark@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I used to think that way until I had my own baby. I understand the parents a lot more now. We don't bring our babies in flights/places to annoy anyone (some parents might do it, Idk :v). It's a complicated situation where we want to stay with our loved ones and at the same time don't be yelled by strangers who can't handle baby noises, trust us, we try to calm them down, if we could, babies wouldn't annoy so much, but they kinda have a mind of it's own 🙂 (stubbornness at its peak) I don't expect anything to change, specially in the terms lf having patience with strangers, but... idk :v

[–] riceandbeans161@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

just stay home then

you chose to have children, in this day and age where all they’ll ever know is suffering and pain

so don’t make everyone else’s life worse because you just had to creampie someone.

[–] Blank@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Believe it or not, we're not all despondent nihilists, hell bent on self fulfilling prophecies of negligent apocalypse incapable of empathy and compassion for those who still gently carry that same flame that brought us all here, not yet lulled like so many into a dark shroud of self doubt and loathing by gluttonous corporations who grow fat on the grief and despair of those who are content to take what is given and slip through life soundless and meak, refusing to create change, however individual, however small, so sure that three hundred thousand years of humanity is unquestionably doomed to the darkness you choose to wallow in.

Some of us want to fight and we love our kids (and yours) and this world, and yes, we even love you nihilists, and we'll fight for you too.

[–] ArcticLynx@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

and we'll fight for you too.

how will you fight for nihilists?

[–] ArcticLynx@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

here's a solution:

don't take planes for a few years until the child doesn't cry for no reason anymore

[–] Anamana@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

And you think you didn't annoy the fuck out of your own parents when you were one?

[–] datelmd5sum@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If pets can travel in the cargo hold hopped up on benzos and ketamine, why can't babies? Or me?

[–] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

I'm up for it. Are the benzos included int he air fare?

[–] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

I'd be interested in acquiring some children. For... purposes... Where can I get some?

[–] RoquetteQueen@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The entitlement of the edgy childfree people (not all childfree people; most of you are cool) is hilarious. Screeching about entitled parents daring to take their children in public because they (the edgy childfree people) are entitled to being perfectly comfortable at all times. The irony is amazing.

[–] r1veRRR@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

It is not about taking them to public places and you damn well know that! It's putting them into a metal tube with a lot of stressors and ruining the flight of many many other people just because you couldn't be bothered to take a break from flying for the first 2-3 years of their life.

[–] mister_monster@monero.town 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm gonna be unapologetically that person one day. Get into a tube full of stinky humans and complain that babies exist in the world. People need to get over themselves.

[–] DrM@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

Especially now that Noise Cancelling headphones are everywhere and work as good as they do. Since I've got my Sony headphones a crying infant becomes only a really minor inconvenience