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I don't even understand the pitch? you have the disc playing, in your hands, your ownership, no buffering, no subscription required. and they're saying....hey do you want a worse experience?

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[–] drahardja@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Protip: Do not connect your TV to the Internet.

[–] PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I ended up giving up and just putting a Linux PC attached to my TV as a media center. I host plex on it.

[–] AFallingAnvil@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 months ago

This is the way (Jellyfin here)

[–] SkippingRelax@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

I don't see how this is giving up though. Been doing this to close to two decades in one form of another and I wouldn't consider any other way. Except kodi instead of plexus here.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Even if you must own a smart TV (because it's impossible to buy a large-ish TV anymore that isn't), I see no reason to actually connect it to any network. But! I notice recent models will bitch at you on every single power on if you leave them disconnected. So you're not even safe from being annoyed then.

[–] Boozilla@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Some people get big computer monitors instead of a TV, because of shit like this.

[–] cobysev@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's the route I took. I recently bought a 48" 4K monitor, hooked a mini PC up to it, and now I stream my movie and TV show collection through Plex. I still have Internet access on my "TV," but I'm in control of what pops up (I block all ads on my home network). I just use a small wireless keyboard and mouse instead of a remote.

I haven't actually owned a TV since about 2008. I have better media options through computers, and the technology just keeps getting better. Cable and public access television are a pain because you're constantly bombarded with ads. With my own computer, I can circumvent ads and get a solid viewing experience.

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

I went the other way. My 75" TV is my PC monitor.
I fucking love it.

[–] tdawg@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

What brand? so I know NOT to buy it

[–] Rognaut@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I believe it's Roku. That purple symbol in the bottom right is on the remote as well.

Very budget so this doesn't surprise me.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago

Fuck Roku. Don't buy these. They shove ads down your throat constantly, and they proactively, aggressively stop methods of circumvention.

[–] idunnololz@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Wtf I thought roku TV were one of the good ones. I use a Roku thing that you plug in and I haven't seen this yet.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

The good ones go bad eventually :(

[–] aeronmelon@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The Roku box was one of the good ones... about ten years ago. Though maybe this is just a TV thing. TIL Roku makes actual screens.

In the past few years especially, I've seen so many unshakable "good ones" go bad. Some, in the worst possible way.

[–] apprehensively_human@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago

My Sharp TV runs Roku software. Suffice it to say I do not have it web connected and use an android box instead

[–] AZERTY@feddit.nl 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The little asterisk symbol on the screen is leading me to believe it's a Roku.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I have two roku tvs. The day I see this is the day they get disconnected.

[–] cybervseas@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You can probably use a pi-hole to block those things.

[–] linkinkampf19@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The amount of Roku stuff my PiHole blocks is asinine. I just recently added a blocklist for smart TVs and it ballooned the query counts like mad.

+1 for PiHole. Worth the ~$40 for the Pi Zero W and accessories alone.

[–] Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's because they retry failed connections until they can phone home again. They aren't normally making tens of thousands of requests.

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

It can scream into the void for as long as it wants.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 0 points 11 months ago (7 children)

See the problem is that you let a display device connect to the internet

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[–] kaotic@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is why my TV does not have internet access.

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 1 points 3 days ago

I like the way 2000s tvs did it, an ethernet cable for any possible firmware updates needed, and an sd card/usb port for media viewing.

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And this is why we buy dumb TVs

[–] dipshit@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yes! got any recommendations because people are searching for dumb tvs and can’t seem to find them anywhere.

[–] whosdadog@sh.itjust.works 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You probably want commercial displays. They'll cost a bit more, but they're also designed to run 24/7 (think the screens they use in menus, signs, etc) so they could probably last forever as a TV.

[–] dipshit@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

So you’re saying I need a commerical display to display less commercials?

[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The SMART thing to do is to buy a DUMB TV. Pay a little more and get a real TV- you know. A display, with speakers and HDMI inputs. Nothing else.

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de 0 points 11 months ago

If possible, get an industrial monitor rated for 24/7 operation at high brightness. They will last decades in home use. Many have RS-232, which means you can easily add an ESP32 and integrate them into cloud-free home automation!

[–] tall_seraphim@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Is this a samsung tv? If it is one of the cheap tv's like Vizio and such they have this live advertising which is awful. I always buy non-smart TV's but now they actually cost more then the smart ones if you are going for a big 65-85" TV.

[–] Usul_00_@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You can save the cash and just never let it connect to the internet.

[–] AustralianSimon@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This. It's a simple as a really good router or a pihole at home or similar. Just block their domains they ring home to.

[–] Tankton@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yes, and now an option for the 99% of population that has no IT background lol

[–] Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Serious question: How much of a brick risk is opening up one of these smart tvs and ripping out the wifi card? Can't connect to the internet if you don't have the hardware to do so.

(Obviously pretty high if legit caveman-style ripping out. Could also be really hard, I have no idea).

[–] Gurfaild@feddit.de 0 points 11 months ago

I haven't checked, but most TVs probably don't have a removable Wifi card and use the SoC's built-in WiFi interface. It might be possible to remove the antennas, but they could also be traces on the PCB that you'd have to cut without damaging anything else.

It’s called “Post-Purchase Monetization”, and it’s why your 65” OLED tv is so cheap. They capture and sell your viewing data - but only if you hook it up to an internet connection. So don’t hook them up to an internet connection.

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