SkippingRelax

I was under the impression that Bolsorano had more support from the armed forces.

And so was he

And isn't the border between Russia and Finland something like 1300km long? Good luck covering all that even if the majority of the Russian army weren't needed in Ukraine or, you know, dead.

How can you manage to spell Fahrenheit right but Celsius wrong?

I am not familiar with meat cheese, though the idea made me barf a bit.

You have a point with coconut milk bit it's such a niche product. I'm not living in the eu at them moment but would have no idea where to find it in my local supermarket.

Alternative meats are obviously confusing people if a country feel the need to legislate, and others are discussing the same

You are embarrassing yourself please stop

For starters the word vegan is relatively new and not widely adopted by the general population. Older generations are likely not familiar with it and once again we are trying to put on the customer the onus of disambiguation. On the other hand they are familiar with the word steak, and associate that with an animal cut.

While your suggestion is intriguing, fake meat producers could just come up with a name for their products that doesn't confuse people so you don't need to put 'vegan' in front of it. Which is what France is doing and other countries will follow soon.

No I'm not going vegan we should both be able to make out food choices and not have to second guess. That's my whole fucking point about not mislabelling food.

I'm telling a vegan that reading ingredients could be even harder if we don't regulate and use the right words. The fact that you had it hard doesn't mean everyone else should.

But, but, but.. let me deflect!

Still positive English is not a language of the eu? Really really really?

Maybe instead of screaming you could actually try to explain what is a problem of labeling a vegan product as vegan steak

Confusing and misrepresenting. Steak is meat.

For customer it's rather clear that it's vegan Except that in some cases it's not.

So what exact problem does arrive from having a vegan steak? Again confusing and misrepresenting for customers. The reason why France legislated about this BTW, let's not pretend it's hard to grasp

if you planing on producing meat that tastes like banana, I don't see any problem to lable it as meat banana.

No I am talking about a processed vegan food that is called 'vegan something' but that it turns out, has chicken eggs and maybe even meat in the list of ingredients. Just because someone might argue around the meaning of 'vegan' the way we are doing for steak, and legislation in some countriesight not protect the meaning of vegan in food names.

Just to be very clear. Nothing against vegans or vegan food. I am for clarity when it comes to customers, particularly in the food industry.

English not a eu member language uh? How about first you think about which countries on the continent speak what language, then which ones are members, then you go and read the Wikipedia page about it and we pretend this conversation never happened and noone will hold it against you not even the stupid part about packaging means processed and me being the one confused here

Oh good lord, you all have the same edgy argument on this thread. Are you gonna tell me that I need to learn how to read next, or that I am an idiot, and that the problem is just me?

Millions of people buy their meat as I just described. They expect to be able to do so moving forward. If youbare used to grab a head of broccoli and move on why do you need someone to start questioning how you chose it, how do you really knownits not cabbage, and really don't you even read if it's organic or where it comes from?

Yes in many cases the label can be misleading. A whole country just legislated about it. I'm not french but agree this is the right decision.

I'm all for veganism and vegetarianism. And for plant based products. I also like to fuckong know what I am buying without having to dissect it.

This https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/steak

And I can tell which animal it was by just looking at it both the look of the meat and the cut. Unless it's not meat and it's designed to look like a (usually beef) steak, in which case I might be induced to think it's a beef steak. Which is the whole point here, France is regulating so this does not happen.