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[–] wagoner@infosec.pub 28 points 1 month ago

Dry run. How the authorities and people respond to this informs these people what will happen they do it again in November. This isn't rocket science.

[–] mecfs@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago (2 children)

“We’re a constitutional republic not a democracy” despite how logically flawed and partly false that statement is, it seems to be used to mean “we’re a right wing autocracy not a democracy”

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 12 points 1 month ago (3 children)

The "tHiS iS a RePuBlIc" crowd fundamentally misunderstands what a republic and what a democracy are to an extent that really makes me wonder where their deeply held conviction that the romans didn't view their republic as a form of democracy comes from. Not to mention the people allowed to participate in athenian democracy sure as shit looked a whole hell of a lot more like the Roman Republic than we usually like to conceive. Athenian democracy was not for the people by the people, it was "the rich people with extra time on their hands decide everything for everyone"

Like... There's a reason when the Athenians went to spread democracy most of the other city states viewed them as hostile and put up stiff resistance

[–] mecfs@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

If they had taken a basic PolSci course, or checked the dictionary:

Democracy = an entity where the people hold the power

Republic = a state where the people hold the power by electing people to rule for rhem.

So the constitution of the united states declares the US as both a republic and by definition a democracy, and a constitutional one at that.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

really makes me wonder where their deeply held conviction that the romans didn't view their republic as a form of democracy comes from.

Exactly how many of them are ancient history scholars anyway? Starting to think it's a minority.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 month ago

I mean... Like they have to know they didn't study this stuff intensely. Its just Pat Buchanan and Rush Limbaugh told them how to think and so that's how they're gonna think

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Dude, they fundamentally misunderstand what everything is. They don't know shit from Shinola, and even The Jerk could figure that one out.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

They're right, we're a constitutional Republic, which is a form of democracy. But look at that caricature in the picture. Do you think these people know what any words mean? No! They just repeat whatever they're told.

[–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago (2 children)

If I refused to do my job I would be fired.

[–] Delusional@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Not my coworker who gets paid more than I do and does 1/5 of the work that I do. Hell, trump didn't do his job for 4 years and republicans still want him back. Probably because they like the fact that he raped children.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

When you're in charge of running the government and you refuse to do your job, the consequences should be much, much, higher.