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[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 12 points 2 months ago (3 children)

The "tHiS iS a RePuBlIc" crowd fundamentally misunderstands what a republic and what a democracy are to an extent that really makes me wonder where their deeply held conviction that the romans didn't view their republic as a form of democracy comes from. Not to mention the people allowed to participate in athenian democracy sure as shit looked a whole hell of a lot more like the Roman Republic than we usually like to conceive. Athenian democracy was not for the people by the people, it was "the rich people with extra time on their hands decide everything for everyone"

Like... There's a reason when the Athenians went to spread democracy most of the other city states viewed them as hostile and put up stiff resistance

[–] mecfs@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

If they had taken a basic PolSci course, or checked the dictionary:

Democracy = an entity where the people hold the power

Republic = a state where the people hold the power by electing people to rule for rhem.

So the constitution of the united states declares the US as both a republic and by definition a democracy, and a constitutional one at that.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

really makes me wonder where their deeply held conviction that the romans didn't view their republic as a form of democracy comes from.

Exactly how many of them are ancient history scholars anyway? Starting to think it's a minority.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 months ago

I mean... Like they have to know they didn't study this stuff intensely. Its just Pat Buchanan and Rush Limbaugh told them how to think and so that's how they're gonna think

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Dude, they fundamentally misunderstand what everything is. They don't know shit from Shinola, and even The Jerk could figure that one out.