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[–] Boozilla@lemmy.world 44 points 2 months ago (7 children)

As much as I disliked Steve Jobs, the man was 100% correct when he talked about companies rotting from the inside. They get taken over by sales & marketing types and the product designers and user experience experts get kicked to the curb.

[–] clmbmb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Apple being the pinnacle of this. They were the first ones that made devices theirs, not yours.

[–] RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, exactly. I find the shilling for MacOS a bit concerning, already from the article and also the comments.

A Mac feels more like yours than Windows? Just goes to shows how shitty Windows has become, not how MacOS is better.

[–] Veraxus@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

Mac has always felt more like mine than Windows. Nothing has changed there.

And neither holds a candle to the pure, blinding, white light that is Linux. GNOME, KDE, the world is your oyster and the desktop is your choice.

[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 months ago (5 children)

In comparison with Windows and iOS, Mac OS is a paradigm of respecting the user. Of course that's only because the bar is firmly embedded on Earth's inner core.

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[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They get taken over by sales & marketing types

Like Steve Jobs lol.

[–] Boozilla@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

Yeah, he was a hypocrit and I despised the guy. Woz was the real hero of Apple. But Jobs did say that stuff, and he was correct in that moment. We see it over and over.

[–] anarchist@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Steve Jobs was no different from the rest in Silicon Valley who would spout virtues out loud while simultaneously undermining them in practice.

[–] realbadat@programming.dev 7 points 2 months ago

I'd even go as far as to say many of them today are just copying Jobs. He was a terrible person.

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Apple didn't rot from the inside. It was built on a pile of compost. "End to end control" has always been the ethos of Apple.

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[–] Lightfire228@pawb.social 30 points 2 months ago

There's a reason I run Linux, and root my Android

Because it actually feels like my device now

(And fixing issues is significantly easier, if you know where to look)

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 months ago

You pay how much to be told no?

[–] KickMeElmo@sopuli.xyz 19 points 2 months ago (9 children)

Tux awaits your arrival friends. Join us.

[–] tooLikeTheNope@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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[–] PanArab@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 months ago (7 children)

I can't even remove the "Recommended" section from the Start menu

[–] Mio@feddit.nu 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

EU should force a choice for all new PC. What OS do you want to run? Windows, Linux or Android? Then you would be able to see real competition in the OS market.

Maybe something like the raspberry pi OS chooser. In the best of worlds you have everything installed and just choose in the boot menu what to run.

[–] nexussapphire@lemm.ee 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Some manufacturers allow you to get a refund for pre installed windows if you feel like sitting on the phone for hours. Something about a lawsuit involving Microsoft and anticompetitive contracts with the manufacturer not allowing the distribution of other operating systems.

I've seen a story about someone who got a refund for their dell laptop but it was slow, and the support staff was rude about it during the process. They stated things like the Microsoft software is free and why would you want to remove windows anyway, passing him from department to department. It's often $60-$80 depending on the version of windows etc.

Edit: I should clarify it might only be a US thing, I've heard people in France having some luck.

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[–] ky56@aussie.zone 7 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Windows 10 LTSC FTW!!! I just installed it and wow is it snappier and devoid of nearly all of those annoyances. I have no idea if productivity apps are affected by its stripped down nature but for Steam gaming it's perfect. I get less lag spikes on steamVR.

I haven't trusted Windows in years. This is just for gaming. I have a physically separate hot swappable Optane SSDs for Linux and Windows Gaming.

For those who will winge at me for not just switching to Linux. During this process I gave a concerted effort to give Linux a go and chose Manjaro KDE to try for steamVR gaming. It sucked. Once I had worked out that it was a permissions issue (It's always a fucking permissions issue under Linux) and just ran it under the root account, there was extremely high latency for the VR compositor to HMD display. Completely unusable as it made me sick and that's usually very hard. I tried X11 and Wayland. Direct and Non Direct output modes. No success.

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[–] XLRV@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm using StartAllBack (paid software), it replace the start menu with a Windows 7 like one, and brings back the pre Windows 11 taskbar, it has no ads and good customization. There's also Open Shell that is free and Start11 that's also paid.

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[–] Twitches@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago

I think it's a registry modification, but, I've seen windows start to ignore modifications to the registry so idk.

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[–] vxx@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Are there different versions of Windows 11? Mine doesn't show ads at all.

[–] set_secret@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] perishthethought@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm curious about this. Do either of you run a custom dns for blocking ads, like adguard or pihole?

Did you turn off a bunch of stuff when you first got the PC?

Do you have corporate policies being applied in your registry?

[–] vxx@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I have Win 11 Pro. I had Starfield ads on my lock screen for a while. I also had those search recommendations, but that's it. Now I have nothing. Maybe it's related to EU?

[–] perishthethought@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, you all get all the nice things we don't in the US.

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[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 14 points 2 months ago

Only now?
My Windows computer stopped felling mine when 10 came around

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago (14 children)

This dude is begging for an ad free windows at the end. Why? They're too far gone. Go make a new home in another OS. It will be okay.

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[–] chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Windows 9x was low-bullshit.

NT and 2000 were corporate enough to be no-nonsense. They belonged to the administrator, but the administrator can be you.

ME was a mistake.

XP was not yet online enough to be properly skeezy.

But from Vista onward, yeah, it's been an escalating shit-show that's difficult to miss.

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Vista sucked for sure, but Windows 7 was pretty great IMO. I was dragged kicking and screaming into the shit that's Windows 10 because Steam stopped supporting 7.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago

I would still be using 7 if ransomware wasn't a thing.

I went back to Mint instead.

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 months ago

Win2k is peak windows

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 10 points 2 months ago

Because it's not. It's a Microsoft Billboard.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Is BeOS still floating around?

[–] lproven@social.vivaldi.net 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

@ChickenLadyLovesLife @dvdnet62 Not as such. I mean it is but its drivers are 25 years out of date now. YellowTab Zeta is out there too which was updated a bit but is still ancient.

But there is Haiku. Bigger, slower, more complicated, but it does a lot more.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (4 children)

As I recall, Gasse was offered something like $440 million for BeOS by Apple and he turned them down. Not sure it would have made any difference in anything by this point, but at least Objective-C wouldn't have been littered with classes with the "NS" prefix.

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[–] thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

No but here is a open source branch of it called haiku and it works great!

[–] _number8_@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's a perfect way to put it. I remember starting college and being really excited about the cloud, having my stuff accessible anywhere, changes automatically saved, etc etc. but now I don't want any of my shit anywhere near their servers, it's mine and mine alone and I'll manage it myself and buffer against losses the best I can. I'd rather have myself fuck up and break a hard drive rather than let microsoft or apple wipe my stuff over a bug or because I didn't pay them enough. Horrible, misleading bullshit.

[–] grandma@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago

I think you'd like syncthing

[–] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

My Windows Computer Just Doesn't Feel Like Mine Anymore.

Aww.

If you love it, set it free!

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[–] 4vgj0e@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

I helped my parents migrate to linux mint and they are very happy with the transition. No more ads, dumb bing search suggestions, or MS edge.

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