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[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago

Those deviations "may, in particular, include appropriate jeans matching the jacket", the new rules state.

This just in, the dress code for the FIDE chess competition now allows for contestants to wear "Canadian tuxedos", matching denim pants and jackets.

[–] thecodeboss@lemmy.world 38 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I detest dress codes, just let people wear what they want. You wanna wear jeans? Go ahead. Shorts? Fine. A nice suit? Go for it.

[–] callouscomic@lemm.ee 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So a gimp suit is perfectly acceptable attire for any event?

[–] Belgdore@lemm.ee 10 points 1 day ago

Why not? It sets expectations for the rest of us.

[–] potatar@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago

So naked is fine too? Or should there be SOME arbitrary lines?

[–] Emberleaf@lemmy.ml 99 points 2 days ago (3 children)

And here I thought the whole point behind the competition was to play chess. Nothing says you think more highly of yourself than you should than to attach a dress code.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 40 points 2 days ago

But the checkmate doesn’t count in shorts and a tshirt. Everyone knows that. /s

Stupid rule.

[–] themadcodger@kbin.earth 15 points 2 days ago

That's how I feel about most jobs.

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Why I can't stand the atmosphere surrounding golf. Douuchheee alert.

[–] Kite@sh.itjust.works 67 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

I don't know him from a hole in the wall, but I wish they'd normalize jeans for office work. These are no longer the days when denim was only worn by physical laborers and looked shoddy. Jeans can look just as nice or just as awful as any other piece of clothing now.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 47 points 2 days ago

Normalize wearing whatever the fuck people want as long as it's not obscene or violent.

They'll have a hard time getting me not to wear jogging pants to sit in front of a screen all day when they force me to go back to the office!

[–] beerclue@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Maybe it's my job (IT), but sometimes I'm the only one in shorts or a hoodie in the technical management meetings. Fuck that shit, you hired me to do lead a geek team (myself included), and I am doing it. Them servers don't give a shit about what I'm wearing. I've trimmed my mustache once this year, my beard is way too long, and I'm also expanding my tattoo sleeves, going for the neck soon. 🤷

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 35 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

In the mid-2000s, I was so confused by office culture and having to wear dress pants. I was venting at a tech conference about it.

Then the room erupted in laughter. Like, Microsoft employees wearing jeans. Apple employees wearing potato sacks. IT guys wearing ThinkPads.

In interviews, I now ask about dress code. It's a yellow flag if the company has other weird micromanaging rules. Which is also why I don't work in Fintech or gov.

[–] Bophades@midwest.social 9 points 2 days ago

I'm imagining IT peeps wearing ThinkPads as loinclothes now

[–] bitchkat@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Dude, I've worn jeans, sweats, or shorts to work since the late 80s.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 2 points 1 day ago

Ive never worked an office job where jeans weren't allowed

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I wear jeans for my office job. Granted, I also have to work with computer equipment, so I'm often moving stuff around and under desks and tables.

Why do you want jeans specifically? You can probably find trousers that are just as comfy and durable as jeans.

[–] Kite@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So it's kind of a long story! To try and shorten it: I didn't wear jeans much as a kid/teen because I have problems with my stomach and the button waist hurt my stomach. So I always had stretch pants on, and they weren't a great look for me. I was already bullied a lot and the pants didn't help any. Then I entered the working world and had to wear dressy clothes. I honestly didn't really care though. 27 years of dressy clothes, and my boss retired and her replacement did not give a flying fig what I wore. Over the years, my stomach issues had gotten worse but I actually found buttoned pants more comfortable now. I went hog wild and bought all the jeans. All kinds of cute shoes to go with the jeans. I was fashionable! Yay! Aaaand then a year ago we got a new Big Boss who decided to require uniforms. He gave us a year to get used to the idea before we had to start following the new rules. Today was actually my last jeans at work day; Thursday it's on to uniforms. I don't actually mind the uniforms, but I am seriously mourning my cute clothes because outside of work I'm basically a shut-in and will almost never wear them again.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago

Well, trousers are button closure, but you can also get ones where the closure is on elastic, if that's more comfortable. These days, there's a lot of more adaptive clothing.

[–] hakase@lemmy.ml 57 points 2 days ago

Good on Magnus for sticking to his guns. The more I hear about that guy, the more I like him.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 54 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

EDIT: I'm an idiot and after having read about Carlsen bailing on the tournament yesterday, this morning I wronglyfully assumed he gave in to get back into the tournament (especially with the quoted passage here in the comments about the other guy who changed his shoes, which made me assume wrongly). Anyway, I'm wrong, stop upvoting me. I'm really glad to hear that they changed the rules, which is the opposite of what I expected, obviously. See, this is what happens when you don't read the whole article!

~~I'm honestly with Carlsen on this and think it's a bad thing he gave in.~~

~~I'm a poor dirtbag,but if I was good at chess, I would think it was a farce if I was forced to buy a whole fucking outfit just to go play a chess tournament, and having these people have the audacity to fine me for being too poor to afford the appropriate clothing is just the fucking cherry on top.~~

~~The whole thing sounds really fucking classist. What's the problem with wearing jeans, a hoodie and chuck taylors? I don't see how the way you're dressed impacts your ability to play chess. This is dumb as living fuck and classist as fuck.~~

[–] ochi_chernye@startrek.website 52 points 2 days ago

The headline is a little ambiguous, but he didn't give in; they relaxed the dress code.

[–] affiliate@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

Anyway, I'm wrong, stop upvoting me.

you might not like this, but i’m going to upvote you for admitting that you were wrong about something

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I’m confused. Carlsen didn’t give in. They changed the rules (surprisingly quickly, IMHO) to accommodate him.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I’m confused.

No, clearly I was the one who was confused.

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 6 points 2 days ago

It happens to the best of us. Thanks!

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 35 points 2 days ago (3 children)

If you're not familiar with the background

"Today, Mr. Magnus Carlsen breached the dress code by wearing jeans, which are explicitly prohibited under long-standing regulations for this event.

"The Chief Arbiter informed Mr. Carlsen of the breach, issued a $200 fine, and requested that he change his attire. Unfortunately, Mr. Carlsen declined, and as a result, he was not paired for round nine. This decision was made impartially and applies equally to all players.

"Earlier in the day, another participant, Mr. Ian Nepomniachtchi, was also fined for breaching the dress code by wearing sports shoes. However, Mr. Nepomniachtchi complied, changed into approved attire, and continued to play in the tournament.

From https://www.onmanorama.com/sports/other-sports/2024/12/28/magnus-carlsen-world-chess-championship-dress-code-violation.amp.html

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 74 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Before people get upset and call him a diva, he's really the only player with the weight to force changes like this.

Pro chess has a terrible history with rules designed to keep the "wrong people" out of competitions. Dress codes can be used to keep poorer competitors out at the lower skill levels, and if you can't compete you can't keep increasing your own skill.

So while Magnus could have easily switched, thousands of poor kids just starting out in lower tournaments might not be able to as easily

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 5 points 2 days ago

You forgot some relevant details, though. He offered to come back in different pants the next day. They said no, that's not good enough.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 0 points 1 day ago

Fined? Lol why do they think they can fine him?

[–] nimble@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I guess it is something but honestly i would've liked to see the dress code ditched completely. This does nothing to help the guy earlier in the day who got fined for wearing sporty sneakers or w/e. You're playing chess, not some fashion show.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

Impatiently waiting for someone to show up in a mankini.

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 15 points 2 days ago

"Special assistants" will be on hand to help judges decide whether players' outfits are acceptable, according to Mr Dvorkovich.

He’s a Job Creator!

Now he can get back to praising the journalist-killing Saudis.