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[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 21 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

This is max cope. Israel destroyed all of Syria's military equipment and anti air defense. and did a massive land steal.

Middle East Eye showing off who their owners are (Turkey).

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

Yeah they literally spent zero buffer time ensuring the rebels wouldn't be able to appropriate former military assets because a government that actually cares about the people and its sovereignty is obviously too dangerous for Israel.

The moment Assad left, they bombed every known aircraft and airfield because god forbid they even have an airforce made up of rusty 70s soviet jets.

On top of that, I'm pretty sure their land posture is like 27km from Damascus. They might as well own Syria with that leverage.

[–] Limitless_screaming@kbin.earth 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yes, but they didn't need to do that before, now they aren't so certain.

Before Bashar's indefinite vacation they just flew by and bombed whatever they though needed bombing and Bashar would just bank the right to respond, instead of actually responding or using the air defenses to stop the bombing in the first place.

They never needed to bomb Syria since Bashar took care of that. Plus his barrels had shrapnel and metal nails to cause as much bodily harm as possible to "his people".

If they needed to get someone out of Syria and into some interrogation room they would just cross the border and grab him out of his house, just load him up and drive away.

I don't think there are many things done to Gaza today that Bashar didn't do to Douma, Daria, Allepo, Dar'a, Hama, Idlib, Homs, and Raqaa 10+ years ago.

Now Syria has some stability, the de facto government isn't driving a wedge between each Syrian and their neighbor based on religion and race to keep Syrians in fear of each other, and they are actually working to improve peoples' lives.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world -1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Before Israel could not do that. It is not like they did not want to. Greater Israel has always included Syria.

[–] Limitless_screaming@kbin.earth 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If they wanted to, they could've destroyed all the weapons, defenses, and bases while Bashar was destroying infrastructure and homes. As for a land invasion, lets not pretend that HTS' take over was more than them marching forward and replacing flags. No one would have fought for Bashar if Israel with air support and advanced weaponry were to start an invasion.

Israel bombed Gaza and went in, then did the same for Lebanon, and was inevitably gonna enter Syria. It just wasn't in a rush to do so, the regime had already turned the country into rubble for them and was massacring Syrians city by city. It wouldn't have been in Israel's best interest to leave their regime exposed with no air defense or artillery.

Just for the record I don't believe that HTS or the next Syrian government will keep up this feud with Israel, they're an actual government that's trying to build a country. It has been clear for quite some time now that the regime is not interested in the "Axis of resistance" and whatever they were planing, but they really needed the Russian and Iranian support so they stayed as a part of the resistance on paper. Now it's gonna be official: No one is coming to get the Golan heights back, and no one has the power to help the Palestinians.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Assad would have fought back against his military getting destroyed. HTS is not doing anything.

Assad did not directly attack Israel. He was transporting weapons for Iran to Hezbollah.

For now we shall see. It is possible HTS will resist Israel but looking less and less likely.

[–] Limitless_screaming@kbin.earth 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Why didn't he fight back against HTS? They didn't destroy his military, they ousted him from Syria. Terrorists now control Syria, the people are happy, the economy is improving, and people feel safe in their homes. How did he let that happen?

Assad did not directly attack Israel. He was transporting weapons for Iran to Hezbollah.

He wasn't transporting weapons to Hezbollah, he was just standing there and the weapons were being transported. Until Israel threatened him and the dumbass Maher who thought he was being sneaky.

For now we shall see. It is possible HTS will resist Israel but looking less and less likely.

HTS will fight to sign a peace agreement acknowledging that the Golan is part of Israel at the very least.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Haha. Golan belongs to Israel, and then Israel needs a new "buffer zone". This is what I mean by HTS cope.

Syria got bombed quite a few times by Israel during the Hezbollah attacks. Assad was not only transporting weapons he was stashing them in bases and actively working with Iran.

I am glad Assad is gone for the people of Syria, but HTS is giving Israel everything it wants and sooner or later Syria will be colonized by Israel.

Assads replacement will not be Golani but Netanyahu.

[–] Saleh 29 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The article is quite extensive so ill try to give a short summary:

Israel wanted Assad ro remain in power to render Syria ineffective. The UAE, one of Israels closest Arab allies wanted Assad to remain in power to demotivate any popular peoples movement from challenging their autocratic leaders.

Israel and the US wanted to prop up the SDF/YPG/PKK Kurds and Israel wanted to prop up the Druze in the South of Syria to split it into three parts with the Kurds fighting Turkey and the Druze severing the Iran-Hezbollah Axis for them.

Assad was convinced the UAE and Israel would help Iran and Russia intervene on his behalf, which is why he only fled so late.

With the fall of Assad Israel quickly picked up to destroy Syrias military capabilities and invaded more of the South of Syria to prevent the formation of a self determined Syria.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 22 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I don't know that any other nation involved in the conflict actually wanted Assad out of power. They thought the status quo would be maintained indefinitely.

Now none of them have a plan for what to do next because they didn't plan for this eventuality.

[–] voracitude@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

Assad's fall is starting to look like it has a lot in common with an Austrian motorcade...