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A Saudi doctor intentionally drove into a crowded Christmas market in Magdeburg, Germany, killing five people, including a child, and injuring over 200.

The 50-year-old suspect, who had lived in Germany for nearly two decades, expressed anti-Islam views and supported far-right politics. Authorities believe he acted alone.

The attack shocked Germany, prompting other towns to cancel Christmas markets and increasing security measures nationwide.

Chancellor Olaf Scholz mourned the victims, and a memorial service is planned. Saudi Arabia condemned the attack, calling it a tragedy.

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[–] Wahots@pawb.social 6 points 1 hour ago

Unfortunately, things like this will continue to happen. Events like Pride here have been proactive whenever there's street events, and they have deployed crash barriers that people can walk between quite easily, but will immediately stop vehicles. They kinda look like portable construction equipment, but they have little wheels on them so they can be wheeled around, and have teeth that bite into the concrete when a car crashes into it. It will stop or potentially flip the car, depending on the speed.

Seeing deterrent measurements is disheartening, but it also makes it much more reassuring to see police and crash barriers protecting large (300k+) events like parades and street festivals. I hope Germany and other countries start to deploy barriers like this for big events.

[–] Nastybutler@lemmy.world 18 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

So I guess his "Do no harm" oath is optional

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 5 points 1 hour ago

Wouldn't you say its...hypocritical?

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 71 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Apparently a right-wing nut bag who had turned against Islam and immigrants.

[–] fxomt@lemm.ee 62 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

Yup, I checked the comments on some posts and they were blaming islam. Once they knew that he was also anti-islam, they went mask off and started blaming Arabs and promoting deportation.

We can't make these clowns happy, they'll always just blame us.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 17 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Right wingers suddenly start using the word Taqqiyah and claim this guy was hiding his religion. Which makes no sense considering this man was not only an atheist but campaigned against Islam and Muslims for more than ten years.

But really it goes to show the pretense of "we do not hate brown people, we hate Islam which is an ideology so we are not racist." was nothing but a sham as they will call any brown person a Muslim.

[–] poplargrove@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

Quick note that right-wingers invent their own definition of what Taqiyyah is. What actually exists in Islam is people being allowed to hide their beliefs if it would put them in danger. Not just for whatever purpose suits them.

Source: Encyclopedia Britannica

[–] fxomt@lemm.ee 7 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

Taqqiyah... in germany.

The saddest part is, there are a lot of real things to criticize islam about, i live in saudi arabia and i fear someone will discover that i am an atheist and be beheaded. But these guys don't care about that.

They don't hate islam, they hate arabs. But all of a sudden, when their own logic is used against them, all of a sudden it's different.

Their think their own discomfort with immigrants is more important than those immigrants escaping persecution. It happened just after the Syrian revolution where i saw a lot of europeans say "they'll leave europe now, right?".

It pisses me off more that these guys are probably german, too; they say shit like "never again" then they say bs like this. They act like they're more civilized than us, that we're savages, despite not even 100 years ago they committed one of the worst genocides in history, but they're not savages, WE are. My point isn't that they should be considered savages, But the hypocrisy is unreal to me.

[–] sockenklaus@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago

they say shit like "never again" then they say bs like this.

No they don't and that's the worrying part: In the best case they think it has been long enough since the Shoa happenend and Germany should look forward and not backwards. In the worst case the flat out deny that it happened altogether...

[–] nexusband@lemmy.world 6 points 2 hours ago

Believe me, as a German, that pisses me off as well...

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Isn't Saudi building clubs and selling alcohol these days? What is going on over there?

[–] fxomt@lemm.ee 1 points 17 minutes ago

I live in mecca so we don't have stuff like that or airports or even cinemas. But yes, only for tourists.

Saudi Arabia sucks to live in. Hard. It is one of the most conservative, and least democratic country in the world. We have no workers rights, many people live in poverty, the non tourist cities are under developed, the government is also wahhabist, and what does the Prince do? He spends all OUR wealth on his toys and side projects. Saying Saudi Arabia is fascist is not far from the truth at this point.

I feel jealous of other countries, to be honest.

Please don't fall for MBSs faux-liberalisation, he is a fascist, just like all before him. In fact, this comment alone is enough to get me executed.

It's only good for tourists here.

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 76 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

The afd are terrorists and nazis. This murderer praises Musk and the far right and then does this. I'm in tears for Magdeburg. 🖤

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 7 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Yet still they will run with the aspect of him being an Arab

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago

"Brown people scary!"

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 62 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Note that this was after Musk praised the AfD.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 14 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm sure that if this happened before Musk's endorsement it totally would have impacted his (Edit for clarity: Musk's) decision.

Absolutely certain.

Pardon me, I'm choking on all this sarcasm.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 11 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Considering he retweeted Musk more than once, I don't think suggesting that Musk had an effect on his thinking is as far-fetched as you seem to.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 11 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (2 children)

Oh let me clarify - I'm sure this terrorist act wouldn't impact Musk's endorsement of the AfD one bit.

Lemmy needs user tags so I could have "has ADHD and frequently miswords things" floating by my name.

[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 1 points 59 minutes ago

Afaik, clients for Lemmy have tags, but they are stored on client side, too

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago

Ah, yes you are correct.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 52 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

The 50-year-old suspect, who had lived in Germany for nearly two decades, expressed anti-Islam views and supported far-right politics. Authorities believe he acted alone.

He acted because he fell for rightwing propaganda...

It doesn't matter if he "acted alone" when thousand (millions?) of other people are listening to the same people spread the same propaganda. There's gonna be the same result, it's a matter of "when" not "if".

[–] Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago

"Acted alone" pretty much always means stochastic terrorism. Very few people radicalize themselves.

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 8 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Since when has the far right been the party of driving vehicles into crowds with intent to harm? What is this new, never happened before craziness?

[–] einkorn 10 points 11 hours ago

Happened before in the US IIRC.

Also, idiocy is universal.