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I'd sincerely recommend everyone to read his manifesto and think about it a little bit.

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[–] GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago (13 children)

It's sad seeing a lot of people fall for conspiracy theories like this. Unable to handle the fact that Luigi wasn't a criminal mastermind but just a regular person like them, only Luigi had the balls to do something about it outside of screaming anonymously into the void.

[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 day ago

I don’t think it’s a conspiracy theory to question the official narrative. Because you know, people never lie, especially not police. /s

[–] Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I think that for someone who had the determination to:

  • Figure out how to access and identify their target (date, time, location, physical appearance)
  • Take enough care to avoid immediate detection before and after the fact (Why suppressor that causes jams? Why 3D print vs straw purchase/private sale/4473 @ FFL? Why mask up before and after?)
  • Flee the scene and the state before (allegedly) getting “randomly” caught in public with all the gear and then some more, and not some invisible forensic trail like gunshot residue on hands/clothes or a cellphone GPS trail to that morning?

It beggars belief imo. Otherwise why not drop the gun immediately and peacefully wait for the cops at the scene to “say his piece in court”, or die in a police shootout, or a mad spree killing inside the board meeting that the CEO was going to that morning? Why stop at the one killing if you’re throwing your life away? Why NOT dispose/bury/cache the tools and evidence if there was a larger/long term plan?

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[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago

If you think about that Boston murder trial, or the YSL trial, you'll remember how often the pigs lie. They love to lie. They lie under oath in court, and fabricate evidence, and they love to lie in press releases even more, because press releases can't count as perjury.

Never take the cops at their word. Always examine the physical evidence. And this actually surprisingly not obvious, but don't take the cops at their word for what the physical evidence is. The evidence itself is what you need to see, not someone's account of said evidence.

Are the pigs lying here? I have some reasons to assume they are, other reasons to assume they're not, and I'm going to watch the trial to see what's real and what's bullshit.

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[–] Lyre@lemmy.ca 37 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The thing that gets me is the McDonald's employees tip. Whenever something like this happens the police are flooded with false information and bad tips, this case would have been even moreso due to the politics involved. What made them decide this random person in another state was credible? What about this tip in particular made them say "this information should be followed up on."

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[–] darkevilmac@lemmy.zip 39 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Nothing ever happens and everything is a conspiracy

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 47 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean they're taking a few liberties there to.my.knowledge but thats close to the official story and it is contusionesque. Unless Luigi wanted to get caught after letting all CEOs cook for a few days.

[–] RadicalEagle@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Which I think would make sense if he wanted to send a message. For example: he lays low and check press coverage to see if they report on it the way he wants. If he doesn’t get the reaction he’s looking for then he can turn himself in and get another chance to speak to the public more directly.

I can see some logic to it.

His goal wasn’t to get away with murder, his goal was to highlight the system in a way that couldn’t be ignored.

[–] nolefan33@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 day ago

Like self-immolation, but burn the person who's actually responsible for the problem.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

But why would him be getting caught be necessary here? The motive was pretty obvious simply due to his role as CEO, and the shell casings removed any doubt. It's not like his "manifesto" revealed much about his motives that wasn't obvious from the bullet casings. In terms of sending his message, what did he getting caught actually accomplish?

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[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 9 points 1 day ago

somehow the cops just know from grainy 140p footage

was miraculously not shattered into pieces, which happens to all other 3d printed guns.

the very well-built gun has a particular reload quirk that was seen in the surveillance footage

the doubt about not disposing the gun is a fair point. i suppose he either wanted to seed doubt to the prosecution (as someone else claimed below), or just forgot to plan this part

would naturally spend a long period of time sitting in a public place

fair point, but i think he simply settled into routine. this is corroborated by him being "visibly shaken" and not−well-prepared to someone asking him about the murder

including the additional time it would take for the cops to respond and then arrive

he obviously did not know someone tipped him off

a random McDonald s worker

slight correction: a fellow customer told the worker. if the concern here is that he would hide his face to the worker, well he may have dropped his guard after going back to his seat

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