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[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 days ago

This is what Conservatives around the world want and glory hallelujah we are almost there! The only difference is all those rations will not come from the government but from corporations paid for by the government.

  • 4 boxes Kraft Mac and Cheese
  • 6 cans Heinz Beans
  • Etc.
[–] Alenalda@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This ladys eating better than I do

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago

How?

With an average net income ranging from 1100 USD to 2400 USD, any average worker should eat better than this

This lady monthly rations amount to approximately 160 USD, while the average minimum wage workers spends from 260 to 350 USD worth on groceries

Which I really doubt is a problem, given that the median of the monthly income in usa is about 5k usd

[–] spaduf@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Was this meant to be supplemented?

[–] strawberrysocial@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

That's a very good question

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago (3 children)

12 packs of cigs seems like a huge luxury

[–] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 10 points 2 days ago

For a month? It's just dried shredded leaves wrapped in paper, cigarettes are super cheap to produce, tax makes them expensive.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

You didn't live in the eighties I bet. It was cheap back then and everyone smoked.

[–] kava@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

average smoker smokes about 20 cigarettes a day. so it's a little less than half of a monthly use of cigarettes.

from what i understand the ration was meant to supplement what you consume, not provide everything

[–] strawberrysocial@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Is 20 cigs a day honestly the average nowadays?? Mind blowing and sad. My mum who was an addicted smoker since she was 10 years of age and went through maybe 5 to 10 cigs a day.

[–] kava@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

it's been the average for a long time. it's due to nicotine's pharmacological effects. its half life is roughly 1~2 hours. so a smoker on average will feel the compulsion to smoke an hour or so after the last cigarette. since most people are awake somewhere 16 hours a day, that's about ~16 cigarettes a day.

your mom's smoking habits were definitely atypical

[–] strawberrysocial@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

Looks equivalent what you'd get at a Canadian food bank nowadays that's meant for 3 days.

[–] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Shieet i could down all of that in 3 days easy

[–] sus@programming.dev 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

damn that's like 8000 calories per day

[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Here's a fun fact, people generally underestimate the number of calories in a thing by 20-30%. Which you have also just done.

The total calories consumed each day if it's all consumed in 3 days, not including the cooking oil or the vodka, would be 11,145.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

You could smoke 4 packs a day for 3 days?

[–] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Yes. I'd also eat those bags of sugar and flour that I totally overlooked

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 59 points 3 days ago (4 children)

ah 12 packs of cigarettes and a half a litre of vodka. a complete balanced breakfast.

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[–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Now you know why people don't smile in Poland.

[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

Hey, I'm Polish and I do sometimes smile. I am living in Denmark, dough.

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Reminds me of the leftist venezuelan regime monthly rations in the form of cajas clap.

Absolutely disgusting food.

Thank goodness I was able to escape the dictatorship with my family

[–] strawberrysocial@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thank you for posting this. I don't understand what a lot of those foods are. It looks like a heck of a lot of it is pasta/noodles based though. And maybe milk powder? Where is the protein other than the canned tuna(?) up at the top.

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

That was it. No more than that. Worst thing is that almost all this products are from Mexico. Before the collectivists and leftists took power in Venezuela, we used to make all these products

Left to right

4 blue pasta packages, 200 grams each

4 green rice packages, 1 kg

4 yellow spaghetti packs. 200 grams each

6 shredded tuna cans. 130 grams each

1 oil bottle. 1 liter

2 red bottles, tomato sauce/ketchup. 220 grams each

2 orange packs, corn flour, 1kg each

1 pack of refined sugar, 1kg

1 white pack, dry whole milk, 500 grams

2 green packs, black beans, 1kg each

3 yellow packs, egg spaghetti, 290 grams each

3 red packs, elbow shaped spaghetti , 200 grams each

1 blue pack, lentils, 1 kg

Take into account that this is supposed to last a family of 4 a month. If it ever arrives.

Because it's assigned per family

Also, as most of these products are from Mexico, the transportation is not the best and most of the time they arrive corroded, open by rats, or with less or very different products than advertised

So yeah I'm glad I escaped the collectivistic hellhole with my family mostly intact

[–] strawberrysocial@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Thank you for answering, this is very eye opening. In Canada we get a similar amount of food at our volunteer based food banks that is supposed to last a month but lasts a few days, but it's different in the type of product. And it would never be given to us in a state that was degraded or torn into by pests.

[–] x0chi@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

That catsup can go 2 ways. Ketchup or Cat Soup

[–] Jikiya@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's not enough butter. I would have been put down young for rioting about criminally low amounts of butter.

[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I thought I used a lot of butter. You use more than a pound a month?

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Holy shit that's a lot. I use about 10 grams per portion of 1 meal, usually breakfast.

I don't eat that daily but even like that, 30 full days non stop , that's like 300 grams

What the hell are you guys doing up there with a pound of butter?

Oh no, don't tell me. I don't want to know

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

Oh, she looks so happy!

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 141 points 3 days ago (17 children)

Lmao 2.5kg of meat? Forget it. If you got any, it was a day to celebrate. You couldn't get shit for stamps and you had to stand in long queues to get the scraps that you could get. You waited for hours for a delivery that immediately disappeared or didn't come at all. You literally bought what you could. People used to barter the stamps and a grey market to get what you needed popped up. The only way to get what you wanted was to pay with dollars.

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[–] kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Unpopular opinion: we need to ration electricity consumption as well as fuel today, even in capitalists countries. Because that stuff actually has incredible impact on the planet, and will (must) drive consumption down, so that companies / individuals start integrating "efficiency" into their thinking

I don't see any other solution to the "exponentially growing power consumption" problem.

[–] bitcrafter@programming.dev 21 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I don’t see any other solution to the “exponentially growing power consumption” problem.

In the U.S., at least, power generation has been roughly flat for the last 20 years, not growing exponentially:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electricity_sector_of_the_United_States#/media/File:Timeline_of_U.S._electricity_generation_by_major_energy_source.png

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[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Pigouvian taxes are a traditional solution to negative externalities, and they are often better received by the public than rationing.

  • It's expensive to be poor - the lights turning off a few days before the end of the month will incur even more costs than a higher electricity bill.

  • Taxes raise money for other programs, instead of costing money to enforce rationing.

  • Higher taxes in general will also help reduce inflation.

  • Tax revenue can be spent on stimulus checks to offset the cost for people who use less energy than average.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Rather than stimulus checks we need to be using the money to subsidize alternatives. And we can just switch subsidies. Some examples of that include that by reducing cattle subsides we can subsidize lower emissions meat alternatives or even offer free classes on how to cook meals that happen to be lower emissions, and we can stop funding airports and put that money into rail systems, similarly by removing mandatory minimum parking and reducing road funding that money can be put into transit solutions that enable less car centric lifestyles.

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[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Can someone calculate the calories in that? I'm too lazy.

Maybe don't include the sugar. That's a shit ton of sugar to go through in month.

[–] asqapro@reddthat.com 21 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Ballpark estimate, excluding the sugar:

2.5kg beef: ~6265 Calories

0.5l vodka: ~1082 Calories

1.3kg white rice: ~4743 Calories

1.3kg flour: ~4732 Calories

500g butter: ~3585 Calories

300g cooking oil (Google says rapeseed oil is popular in Poland so I used that): ~2652 Calories

250g chocolate: ~1338 Calories

Total: 24,397 Calories or ~813 Calories per day

Some other people online also did the math and came up with similar numbers. For example: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37027027 came up with 33,063 Calories (including the sugar)

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