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[–] rockerface@lemm.ee 126 points 5 days ago (2 children)

They need to release Apple Strength and Apple Dexterity to make the experience more complete

[–] AlphaOmega@lemmy.world 59 points 5 days ago (1 children)

That would require Apple wisdom

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 35 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I can’t afford Apple Wisdom.

[–] datavoid@lemmy.ml 15 points 5 days ago

No Apple Luck

[–] Teal@lemm.ee 18 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Hard to argue against a nice quality build.

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[–] dinckelman@lemmy.world 142 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The only bit of excitement I've experienced about this, was when they announced it will be force-disabled in Europe, so I didn't have to turn it off myself

[–] Thekingoflorda@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] dinckelman@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)
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[–] stealth_cookies@lemmy.ca 109 points 5 days ago (6 children)

I feel like this can be generalized to AI in general for most people. I still don't see much usefulness or quality in output in the scenarios where I've been exposed to AI LLMs.

[–] plenipotentprotogod@lemmy.world 59 points 5 days ago (19 children)

I feel the same way about AI as I felt about the older generation of smartphone voice assistants. The error rate remains high enough that i would never trust it to do anything important without double checking its work. For most tasks, the effort that goes into checking and correcting the output is comparable to the effort I would have spent to just do it myself, so I just do it myself.

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Same. I'm not opposed to it existing, I'm just kind of... lukewarm about it. I find the output overly verbose and factually questionable, and that's not the experience I'm looking for.

[–] T156@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago

Even with other forms of generative AI, there are very few notable uses for it that isn't just a gimmick/having fun with it, and not in a way achievable via other means.

Being able to add a thing to a photo is neat, but also questionably useful, when it is also doable with a few minutes of Photoshop.

I've a friend who claims it can be useful for scripts and quick data processing, but I've personally not had that experience when giving it a spin.

[–] Prox@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago (3 children)

It's a nice way to search for content or answers without all the ads that websites have nowadays. Of course, it's only a matter of time until the AI/LLM responses are surrounded by (or embedded with) ads as well.

[–] vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 5 days ago

llm and search should not be in the same sentence

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 16 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Or it much prefers to give you answers from "partners." For example:

Me: How can I find a good set of headphones?

AI: A lot of people look for guides and reviews to find a good set of headphones. The important features to look for are... . This can be overwhelming, so consider narrowing the search to a reliable product line like those by Beats (or whatever advertiser). Do you want some links to well-reviewed products?

Ick...

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[–] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 26 points 4 days ago (1 children)

As the general rule I feel the same about more or less all of the "AI" that is available to consumers from the likes of Google, OpenAI, etc.

It just seems more like a different way to do things with digital assistants or search engines that we have already been able to do for years.

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[–] bizza@lemmy.zip 35 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I tried it one time, and it's just as "slop" as the rest of generative AI. CEOs have no taste

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 28 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

CEOs have no ~~taste~~ clue

Techbro CEOs are especially susceptible to the hypetrain and then want it implemented somehow, despite the tech not living up to the imaginary magic bullet they got from their superficial info.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 20 points 4 days ago

Much like many of us see no value in apple products.

[–] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 20 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

As a normal user, I don't find Ai useful.

Like, anybody's, for much of anything other than generating fever-dreams and Plex art.

code, tho.

Bash scripts, maybe but, it's not necessary for me.

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

It's almost like siri already does what people want it to, and anything beyond that is a waste of time and resources

[–] Juice260@lemmy.world 36 points 5 days ago

I went into settings on my phone and disabled it immediately

[–] BertramDitore@lemm.ee 51 points 5 days ago (9 children)

Yup. Photo cleanup was cool to try once, but I’ll never use it again. Removing stuff from photos with a single tap also bugs me a bit in general, I’m not sure it’s something we should make so easy. Message summaries are absolute shit and have already caused confusion for me. I’m not even talking about the proper notification summaries, just the auto-summaries in the preview lines of the whole iMessage list. A number of them have really fucked with me. For example, a friend asked me to FaceTime her in a few days, and the summary just said “FaceTime request.” And I was like “shit, did I miss a call?” As far as I can tell I can’t turn that off without disabling the entire AI setting.

I’m also not sure how to feel about all of Apple’s privacy talk when it comes to their AI features. They say certain features will stay on device, which is great, but for everything else, as far as I’ve noticed there is no mention of what goes to OpenAI’s servers, since their AI is still primarily powered by OpenAI. There’s actually no mention of OpenAI in any of the disclaimers or warnings I read when I first enabled it.

[–] narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee 43 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Apple Intelligence isn't "powered by OpenAI" at all. It's not even based on it.

The only time OpenAI servers are contacted is when you ask Siri something it can't compute with Apple Intelligence, but even then it clearly asks the user first if they want to send the request to ChatGPT.

Everything else regarding Apple Intelligence runs either on-device or on their "Private Cloud Compute" infrastructure, which apparently uses M2 Ultra chips. You then have to trust Apple that their claims regarding privacy are true, but you kind of do that when choosing an iPhone in the first place. There's some pretty interesting tech behind this actually.

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[–] alexc@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Genmoji is a waste of space. The image generation is really bad (but then again, most of these platforms are). The writing tools are mediocre. About all that is moderately useful is that Siri seems a little better and processing commands.

If they want to start charging for this, I’m out.

[–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago (2 children)

If they want to start charging for this, I’m out.

I’m not sure why they would charge for it, most of it happens on-device.

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[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 22 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (4 children)

Probably worth noting, this survey was taken before 18.2 went live with a ChatGPT integration, image generation, etc.

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Even with integrations, a lot of the automatic replies basically boil down to “yes, thanks” and “no thank you” to every text. It isn’t even like… A longer message. It’s just two or three words, tops. If I’m going to use AI to write my texts, it’s going to be for something longer than a “yes lol” text.

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[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 29 points 5 days ago

I gotta be honest, the push notification summaries are more annoying than they are useful. Like. I’m going to read a text blurb of 100 or so characters. It’s an extra step to see the summary and then the actual message itself.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 24 points 5 days ago

Daily iPhone user. Haven’t really noticed any difference. They really pushed how tightly integrated the experience would be, but honestly, I don’t really notice.

Maybe they integrated it so well that it looks exactly the same as what they started with.

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 24 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (5 children)

From my experience iOS actually got dumber. At least the keyboard did, which is annoying. There's a certain way how keys responded to what you typed which has been a thing since the first iPhone. But two updates ago or so, they butchered it completely (especially if you type in German), making texting pretty difficult at times. I've asked other users and some of them experience the same issues in that certain keys just do not want to get tapped sometimes because the algorithm expects something else, making hitboxes of unwanted keys way too big. Needlesly to say I'm not ready to trust Apple's Intelligence just yet.

[–] Roopappy@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I experience this way too much. I have a nostaligia for when all of the problems I had with computers (broadly) were because I did something wrong... not because the computer is trying to fix something or guess something or anticipate something. Just let me type.

Yesterday, I typed out the letters of a word I wanted, and after typing a second word, I saw my iPhone "correct" the first word I typed to something else entirely. NO. Stop assuming I made a mistake. You cause more problems than you solve.

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[–] Darc@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago

I appreciate the summaries on my notifications. Some of my people text a book every time.

I was trying to generate ai images and it couldn’t handle anything …. asking Siri questions amounts to nothing … it has a cool animation and sound for when you summon it and that’s about all … it’s a fucking dud.

[–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 20 points 5 days ago (8 children)

I’m very much enjoying the GenMoji stuff. Being able to send or react with an emoji tailored to the situation is not useful, but it’s fun when you come up with a good one.

Also Siri is definitely more functional than it used to be. It understands when I correct myself or change my mind. Very handy. Still far from perfect though.

Also on iPad all the AI-driven handwriting cleanup and stuff is really nice when taking notes.

But otherwise it’s not super useful. I don’t like the notification summaries, they aren’t very good. Though they are sometimes hilarious. Like Ring being summarized as “Thirteen people at your door and gunshots heard.”

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excluding comedy

[–] Oaksey@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It still needs to learn. I'm personally trying to opt out of it watching everything I do, will have to be some pretty serious benefits for me to revert.

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[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 12 points 5 days ago

Shock, I tell you. Absolutely shocked. S

[–] awesomesauce309@midwest.social 12 points 5 days ago

They need to let us whitelist 2FA App notifications from summary, so there is no lag time. I have to wait 30 seconds, where it used to be instant. My friend turned it off and his notifications went back to being instant again.

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