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A community for those who want to end work, are curious about ending work, want to get the most out of a work-free life, want more information on anti-work ideas and want personal help with their own jobs/work-related struggles.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 24 points 5 days ago

The fundamental difference between Luigi and the average American is that Luigi truly felt he was entitled to health care. He was so affronted by the injustice that he went postal over it.

Most Americans are either too demoralized or too cynical to believe they can do more than yell at a call center worker when claims are denied.

[–] Wes4Humanity@lemm.ee 60 points 6 days ago (6 children)

So, totally unrelated, but like hypothetically, how illegal would it be to start printing guns and giving them to people with terminal illnesses who were denied coverage? No reason in particular

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 52 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Well remember the Republicans think gun control is bad, so.

It's almost like they're begging for it.

[–] MrSpArkle@lemmy.ca 29 points 6 days ago (3 children)

You can’t manufacture a gun for somebody else unless you’re a registered gun manufacturer. You can only make one for yourself. You can hypothetically sell/give a printed gun to someone if when you made it you didn’t intend on selling or distributing it, however many states require you to transfer that firearm via a dealer.

You would have to give/loan your cancer patient a 3d printer and maybe suggest a URL. They would have to construct the firearm themselves without help.

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 19 points 6 days ago (1 children)

you can't murder people in the streets without having a badge.

yet ...

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 19 points 6 days ago

Sure you can. Nobody is going to stop you. Law enforcement will show up after to push brooms around and take notes, but you will already have achieved your goal.

[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago (2 children)

You worry about the legality of printing a gun when you want to give it to someone to use for murder?

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 13 points 5 days ago (1 children)

There's an old saying, "Never commit a misdemeanor in the middle of your felony."

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Commit one crime at a time. Trying to break this is what has gotten many big fish.

Remember, they picked up Capone on tax evasion.

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[–] MrSpArkle@lemmy.ca 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Organized crime worries about legal issues all the time, and their whole purpose is crime.

Limiting liability, and plausible deniability, is a cornerstone of literally getting away with murder.

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[–] ramsorge@discuss.online 14 points 6 days ago

Illegal. But look into 80% lower receivers for more info.

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[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 39 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Frankly, it would be an objectively good thing if there were a trend of Luigi-esque incidents, because the only thing entrenched power structures will respond to is violence, and Luigi's methods did not leave much room for collateral damage.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

We need some kind of large scale morally righteous social struggle. Perhaps, to use a turn of phrase, a jihad on health insurance.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 34 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Cool, go assassinate another CEO if you actually care.

Posting on the internet does nothing.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 29 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Posting on the internet is effectively just leafleting, but on a mass scale.

That's not nothing, but it's certainly not enough.

[–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 33 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, there might be some copycats, but I'm dubious. This reignited the healthcare and wealth gap conversation, but that's about it. Nothing meaningful will come from this in regards to our legislature taking action to help the lower and middle classes out.

This guy is likely to go to jail for a long time. Law enforcement spared no expense tracking him down, catching him within days even after making a relatively clean getaway after a fairly well executed plan. Not many people have nothing to lose and/or have no fear of those kinds of consequences.

In my opinion, until around 30% of our country is on the verge of starvation, unemployment, and/or homelessness, there won't be a mass movement that chooses to take forceful action. And even if that occurs, you can guarantee all the fancy police state surveillance they've put in place over the last 20-some-odd years will get dialed up to 11.

[–] Pronell@lemmy.world 17 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Fairly well-executed plan? Dude was eating in public in the same jacket he wore that day.

Not to mention going without the mask at Starbucks and keeping the manifesto and weapon.

He wasn't trying to seriously evade capture. But I think he was close to having a chance.

[–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

And yet the only reason he was caught as soon as he was, was because a McDonald's employee wanted $50,000 (and didn't even end up getting the money anyway).

I didn't say it was a flawless plan or even great, just that he did evade authorities for days despite the insane amount of resources NYPD poured into finding him.

[–] ultranaut@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

He was 100% getting caught regardless of who reported seeing him. The only chance he had was ditching everything and running forever.

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[–] rabber@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I think that a lot of Americans have nothing to lose

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 2 points 5 days ago

And that number will be increasing drastically after Trump's fascism takes over.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 32 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Fear

We all live in fear ... fear that if we speak up, we'll lose our job ... fear that once we've spoken up, we'll never be listened to again ... fear that if we lose our job, we'll never be hired again ... fear that without work and income, we won't be able to survive ... fear that we will be ostracized by everyone if they don't/won't/can't agree with us ...

... but most of all, fear that we will be destroyed by the judicial, police, security and legal system that is owned and controlled by those we try to rebel against

... and greatest of all, we will be killed for speaking out too loudly and prominently

[–] Lets_Eat_Grandma@lemm.ee 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

But we got legal weed!!111 until they decide to make it illegal and throw us in jail if we don't stay in line and keep working for our masters or a different nonsensical "because I say so" reason.

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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I understand why the French were fed up and went agro on the wealthy in 1789. Most Americans view the wealthy as heroes and will continue to take it up the ass without lube.

[–] tja@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 days ago

The wealth distribution right now in the US is almost the same as it was in France at that time

[–] damnedfurry@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The French were starving to death in the streets in 1789. In the US, the average poor person is exponentially more likely to suffer from obesity, than to die from lack of food.

I wouldn't hold my breath for the American people revolt like that--things are simply not nearly as bad in the US now as they were in France then, and it's ignorant to equivocate them like this.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago

If I may suggest. Work and live in a 1st World EU country and one will quickly realize how far behind the USA is and what should be fixed. Crime and violence will decrease too.

[–] dog_@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago

Can you burn a Luigi board?

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Why does he always have a mouse cursor in his ear ? Is this a new US trend ?

[–] doughless@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Whoever took the original picture likely used a phone or camera to actually take a picture of a computer screen. I think I can see screen refresh artifacts in the image, too. It's mostly an illiterate computer user trend, or maybe someone in a hurry to capture a picture of someone else's screen.

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It's mostly an illiterate computer user trend, or maybe someone in a hurry to capture a picture of someone else's screen

Its probably on a security/cop PC of some sort, much easier to snap a pic with your phone than to sneak a screenshot off of one of those

Yeah but like… move the cursor first.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

It's ok if you like wearing a mouse cursor in your ear, we won't judge you.

[–] BigLime@lemmy.ml 12 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Dude had the means, resources, and time to do that stuff. Really desperate people are too busy trying to survive and don't have time for all this internet fetitization.

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Mmm I wouldn't count them out.

[–] BigLime@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 days ago

Revolutions start from the top down. Not the bottom up

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 7 points 6 days ago

He also had a sense of entitlement. Marginalized folks expect to be fucked over, so they're less likely to flip out and kill somebody when it happens to them.

[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

There’s millions of people with the traumatic experience of dealing with healthcare companies, millions of people with guns, and maybe thousands with the skills to get in range of potential targets. But the center of a Venn diagram of all three would make for the next potential shooter.

We’re sitting on a tinder box. The working class is fuming at the cost of living, and even the better off and low end of the capitalist class (unbelievably I know) are suffering under our health care system. This guy is a class traitor. He could of been a capitalist, he was born to a capitalist family that owned multiple successful businesses he theoretically could of taken over. But his pain likely radicalized him towards a different path…

[–] BigLime@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yea m8 I don't know if the working class is feeling all that revolutionary considering whomst tf they elected last month

[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 days ago

They elected him because of how angry they are.

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