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[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 19 points 1 week ago

It doesn’t help that there are almost 0 conservatives left in the Republican Party. They either joined the Trump cult and gave up on conservatism or got exiled. And many of the latter were then welcomed by centrist democrats.

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 week ago

Please link the shit out of that article!

[–] Curiousfur@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] UsernameHere@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

So the writer came to this conclusion after reading this other article that came to it’s conclusions from this:

I examined the data from the most recent World Values Survey (2010 to 2014) and European Values Survey(2008), two of the most comprehensive studies of public opinion carried out in over 100 countries. The survey asks respondents to place themselves on a spectrum from far left to center to far right. I then plotted the proportion of each group’s support for key democratic institutions. (A copy of my working paper, with a more detailed analysis of the survey data, can be found here.)

Basically two surveys from over a decade ago that survey people across the planet. Not in the US…

In other words the writer is trying to present their opinion as fact.

[–] Curiousfur@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

At least in my experience, their conclusion tracks correctly. If both sides of the aisle are so diametrically opposed, to be a moderate is to want nothing to change, which generally means you're of a demographic that is unaffected by negative policy from either side, which leads to being low information and low engagement in democracy. The moderate is the position of the status quo, and at least in my experience means they will vote against any change in either direction because they don't want to have to think about things changing, even if it means voting against someone that could help them in the long run.

[–] UsernameHere@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

In my experience moderates have a mix of stances from both left and right sides of the spectrum so they don’t fully identify with either ideology.

If both sides of the aisle are so diametrically opposed, to be a moderate is to want nothing to change.

This doesn’t make sense because it implies that 1) the current state of US government is exactly at equilibrium between right and left. 2) there is no nuance to political ideologies, as if all leftists agree on all topics and all right wingers agree on all topics.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Every mainstream Democrat today would have been considered a Republican when I was a young man, except for the identity politics. So they've moved to the right, and then added a diversionary and divisive agenda to their overall party policy.

[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago

It recent years, moderate was always to speak about conservatives that are too ashamed to admit that they are conservative.

So it isn't a surprise.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Well, yeah… current democrats are far closer to republicans of 30-40 years ago than they are to someone like President Carter. Even back in the day the democrats were resistant to taking up LGBTQ causes. Republicans otoh are courting fascism and oligarchy openly. The Overton window has slid that far to the right.

[–] radical_larry@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

American politics (and any post about) is like splitting in borderline personality disorder.

Seriously so much semantics.

[–] Sundial@lemm.ee 0 points 1 week ago

I mean it's pretty obvious that the Democrats are more in line with what the Republicans were 10-15 years ago.