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[–] magikmw@lemm.ee 213 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

FYI it's different matrix from the matrix.org

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 85 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Wish OP had written that in post… I nearly got a heart attack and was wondering how TF they done that 🤣

[–] CAVOK@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago

I don't change the headline generally, but I also didn't catch that it wasn't "the real" matrix.

[–] GravitySpoiled@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 weeks ago

Since France uses matrix themselves, they could've simply shut their own server down 😛 Which would be horrible of course ..

[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Dude seriously lol

[–] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 41 points 2 weeks ago

I would love to call the headline clickbaity bs, but it's technically accurate and somehow this makes it worse and better at the same time.

[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] petersr@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Look Neo, soon you won't have to ask that question.

[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago

But, why male models?

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago
[–] SmoothIsFast@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

It's it different from the matrix Neo lives in too?

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 114 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

previously cracked services such as ANOM

Shit journalist. ANOM was created by the FBI as a honeypot trap. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Trojan_Shield

[–] veeesix@lemmy.ca 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I just listened to the Search Engine podcast episode covering ANOM last night! Completely wild the reach of this program entailed.

Link to the episode for those that are interested.

[–] tron@midwest.social 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

ANOM was also covered in a recent episode of the podcast Darknet Diaries!

[–] veeesix@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago

I’ll check it out. I don’t normally tune in, but they have a good show.

[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Did the authorities post "FIRSSTTT"?

[–] dRLY@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago

More than likely would mass post "Knock knock.." and wait for the first "who's there?" reply.

[–] Imprint9816@lemmy.dbzer0.com 64 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

The investigation did not spotlight the similarly-named Matrix open source communication protocol.

Feel like there are going to be a lot of confused Lemmy users who won't read more than the title.

[–] GlassHalfHopeful@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 weeks ago

Well goodness. I read the article, fortunately, but it's good to see other people pointing out here.

My initial thought was that this was the matrix we obviously care about. I didn't look at the details to see if these people are truly nefarious and do belong in jail, which I'm okay with, but it was definitely troubling to imagine that something I thought secure wasn't secure. 😬

[–] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 53 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The investigation did not spotlight the similarly-named Matrix open source communication protocol.

huh

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I like the full quote better:

Dutch police said the Matrix app was targeted along with similar encrypted services known by the names Mactrix, Totalsex, X-quantum and Q-Safe. The investigation did not spotlight the similarly-named Matrix open source communication protocol.

Absolute dupe-magnets.

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago

Totalsex

heh

[–] will_a113@lemmy.ml 45 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I wonder if this matrix app was just a honeypot that was named to trick people into thinking they were using the “real” matrix.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)
[–] Hiro8811@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 weeks ago

Aw man. I was fishing for a movie quote. LoL

[–] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 7 points 2 weeks ago

What is the Matrix?

A viral advertising campaign in 1999...

[–] VintageGenious@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

La matrice est universelle, elle est omniprésente, elle est avec nous ici en ce moment même, elle est le monde qu'on superpose à ton regard pour t'empêcher de voir la vérité.

Quelle vérité ? Le fait que tu es un esclave Néo. Le monde est une prison, sans espoir, ni saveur, ni odeur, une prison pour ton esprit.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Zak@lemmy.world 26 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I'm surprised so many criminals are picking these niche services that haven't had their security verified by trustworthy third parties. That's just asking for trouble.

[–] SatyrSack 12 points 2 weeks ago

The allure of the potential for "security through obscurity" is great if you don't know better.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

As with all criminals, it's only the dumb ones that get caught.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I wonder who works in the cartel's IT department.

[–] dRLY@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago

Given the massive take down. I think you mean "I wonder who 'worked' in the cartel's IT department."

[–] Txmyx 1 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Why are these apps getting hacked? Wouldn't just RSA 2048 be enough?

[–] CAVOK@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Probably an implementation issue. Make a small error there, like storing parts of a key in memory or something like that and you've compromised security.

[–] oldfart@lemm.ee 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Encryption is easy, key exchange is not

[–] FrederikNJS@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Encryption is really really hard, and avoiding some form of sidechannel attack is much much harder.

Sure key exchange also isn't trivial, but I would say that key exchange is significantly easier. Care to elaborate?

[–] XTL@sopuli.xyz 0 points 2 weeks ago

Encryption is trivial. Getting a reliable keystream is not.

It all depends on the framing 😁

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago

The real matrix's key exchange is pretty headacheless, is there any downsides to it?

[–] FrederikNJS@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago

RSA doesn't scale, so if the message is large then RSA becomes unwieldy. So most encryption methods that make use of RSA actually encrypt the data with a symmetric algorithm, and then just encrypt the key for the symmetric data using the RSA key.

But there is still way way way too many ways to implement crypto wrong, which can completely compromise the security of it.