Jokes aside, I think the correct one should be "binaria" because it's "persona no-binaria", where "persona" being a female-gendered word still includes everybody (persono doesn't even exist).
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Native speaker here and no, that wouldn't be correct as a general rule. The most typical would be talking about or someone else like "yo soy no binario/a" and "yo" would be a he or a she depending on who is saying that. If you're talking about someone else it's "el/ella es no binario/a" for example.
The point of being non-binary, though, is that they are neither "he" nor "she". Hence the post.
Spanish always knows
El es no binario
Ella es no binaria
You see, easy peasy
Also a native speaker here. You can also just not specify "el/Ella" because the context isn't relevant. I.e. "es no binaria". You can also just pluralize the person to get around gendered wording, I.e. "ya llegaron" for "they have arrived" rather than "el/Ella ya llego" for he/she has arrived, but this is informal and may sound odd to someone of a different dialect from me, but I think this should at least be intelligible to Latin american Spanish dialects
Not only informal but a bit disrespectful, by saying ya llegaron to one person, it's like adding disdain to them.
It's easier to say llegó + nombre de la persona
ie: llegó Juana, llegó Pedro
And so on
Persona non bueno
Persona is bueno. Can't get more neutral than that
no binario or binaria or maybe binarioa or binari or binarie
but please not binarix
For real that x there is annoying as hell
wasn't it made up by white liberals
Yeah then they would claim it was made by latin alphabet people
It's just a thinly veiled try to appropriate our Spanish language
For those who aren't directly from Spain, the Spanish language is one of colonialism so I really don't care if we want to re-adapt it which most lands that were colonized by the Spanish already do.
Yeah you can't actually tell a whole population how to talk
Contrary to what you guys think, you don't own us
Huh? No one is telling a whole population how to talk. And I don't even know where your last comment is coming from.
I'm Mexican, and think the argument is silly. Whatever someone prefers to be referred to is how I will refer to them.
The spanish language isn't the heritage of the Central and Southern American people. That was mostly stolen from us by the Spanish.
I don't see most of latam talking in quechua or in warao. Do you want to force them as well to talk in those?
Rather be called a slur
Ok, A Slur. Weird nickname bit. I am nothing if not accommodating.
Hello Nothing if not accommodating, i'm dad
Re-really? 🥹
Binarix Lestrange
Oh this one takes the cake
Do it the Italian way:
no binariə
I'm digging how Japanese is just context based. The same sentence that says "He's cool" is the same as "She's cool" and "It's cool." What changes its meaning is the context you're using it in.
*por qué
Graciela
As a native Spanish speaker, I must tell something: that's the de facto (I think) right way to do things. Most people in my IRL environment, including myself, disprove the use of the "e" (although we don't care about the "@").
Clarification: That's IRL in my own POV only, maybe someone has a POV that is exactly the opposite. IDK
You speak the truth truth
Oh noooo don't tell the shitlibs or they'll start calling it no binarix XD
i know that every time 'latinx' comes up online it gets spammed with 'rich white libs made it up' replies but i've also seen deep in those comment chains people claiming to be latin american trans people and that the term was created by the latin american trans community itself.
also, typically those replying with the above knee jerk 'white libs' response tend to be far right when i dug into their histories. on youtube and reddit over the years, that is. haven't seen this discourse on lemmy. also i don't have any sources for the origin of the term, just thought you might want to reconsider potentially being hateful to the latin american trans community if that wasn't your intention.
and tbh, even if it was some dem focus group in new york that came up with it, it's pretty easy to see that trans people might take the above kind of response to that term as one rooted in hatred.
I am both latine and trans and latinx is fucking dumb lol so heres another one for the anecdote
But don't you dare mention the e or @ or heaven forbid the dreaded x, because accomodating identities not traditionally considered in a language's common form is "white people shit"
Every single American born person of hispanic heritage, every first gen Spanish speaking immigrant I have ever known or met, as a friend, momentary acquaintance, or as a social worker helping to aid the homeless...
...every one that I have met in the real world either thinks latinx is laughably stupid (as in they literally laugh when the topic is brought up), or they are visibly confused when they read or hear the term.
And of friends and acquaintances, I know they ranged all over the political spectrum.
I wish no ill will on whoever came up with the term, but it just is not sensible to anyone who is not terminally online.
Hablo un pocquito español, so... as far as I can tell, there is at least existing precedent for the e ending, but I'll leave it up to the actual members of the language group and its culture to come up with a term (hell, there may be many different local or regional ways to accomplish it, as Spanish varies considerably by region and locale).
Hablo un pocquito
poquito
A lil bit
Actual members of the language group and culture did come up with a term, they came up with the x, and the anti-queer-machismo undercurrent in Latine society drove the lot to hysterics about the end of the spanish language and the gringoification of Latine culture.
Every time I see someone try to excuse this shit they'll spin some variant of "let them decide what term to use", and I'm like, why isn't the same right afforded to the queer folks who came up with those terms?
What about the greater Latine culture gives them a superior right to the Latine queer community to decide what letter to use? Why is not listening to the language community in question suddenly ok when it means overriding what the Latin Queer community outright told y'all they wanted in favor of appeasing los machismos who are all suddenly heads of the spanish academy and grammar experts as soon as it's convenient to be so to shout down some gay math nerds who wanted to be clever and punny in their chatspeak representation?
The Anglosphere didn't have the right to tell our queer community what they were gonna be called, why should we respect the hispanosphere trying to say they have that right?
Are you sure it was actually created in the Latin American world by Spanish speakers and not in the USA by English speakers with Mexican ancestors that keep saying they're Mexican even though they've never been to the country, can't speak the language and the last person in the family to do so was their grandpa?
Because this seems 100% an American invention by people who can't speak the language but still need to feel superior by pretending to do "something" for the queer community.
I don't think I've ever heard any of this outside of English speaking forums comprised mainly of Americans. Not in real life, not in Europe, not in Latin America.
Do you even speak the language? Because I'd argue that before trying to change something, you first need to have a deep understanding of that thing, especially for languages.
This. No self respecting Latin American tolerates our language being appropriated
Because we don't want non-speakers rewriting the grammar of our language based on sensitivities that are not ours.
"non-speakers", "not ours" as if you have any right to decide or judge.
Clinging for dear life to "it's not disgusting bigotry! ItS jUsT oUr CuLtUrE!", unless you're out here admitting you have the weakest spine on the planet and immediately turn with the social winds, how other people speak a language ain't gonna change how you speak it.
Only way you could ever accuse it of harming latin culture is if you fundamentally believe being inclusive to queer folks is destructive, in which case, you are literally the exact low-down slime I was warning about in this whole thread, and I welcome you to the stage as the freakshow example you deserve to be seen as!
Trying to impose your value judgement on a culture you don't know or don't understand. Acting like a true colonizer. I'm a queer Hispanic, I don't need you carrying out a moral crusade in my name.
The thing is they, colonizers, need it. That's the only way they can justify in their heads how they see us all as uneducated inferiors