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[–] FabledAepitaph@lemmy.world 22 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Basically all the land is already owned by corporations or farmers with generational wealth. Where will the farmers farm?

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

There's a lot of farmers that are looking to not be farmers anymore. There's also lots of land for lease.

[–] mynameisigglepiggle@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago

It's called feudalism

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 41 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Sorry, can't hear you, paving over our arable land because owning apartments is less work.

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 9 points 22 hours ago

Dense living isn't the issue. It's single family homes turning everything into lawn

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 day ago

I wish we were building apartments. I just got a business park and a whole police complex being built.

[–] cypherix93@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Next episode we talk about our eroding farmlands and needless urbanization.

[–] abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 17 hours ago

Does she believe that the thing that's causing the lack of farmers is podcasters?

[–] Stalinwolf@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What are all of our finest bros with carefully curated facial hair and neck tattoos going to do for a living now, if not talk about hustlin' and unfaithful club rats in front of a mic? I'm not even sure where these dudes worked before podcasts were an option. Bouncers, I guess? Stealing cell phones?

[–] blibla@slrpnk.net 12 points 1 day ago

marketing probably

[–] ChihuahuaOfDoom@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I mostly listen to heavy metal on my tractor.

[–] Grainne@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Have you tried switching to unleaded?

[–] SpruceBringsteen@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Maybe they don't like listening to soft rock.

[–] nilclass@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 day ago

Lead is actually a pretty soft rock, as well as a heavy metal

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 23 hours ago

There probably is the occasional farmer using leaded gas in a tractor...

[–] BobbyNevada@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 19 hours ago

It's your one way ticket to midnight.

[–] frunch@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Which is more difficult though? Establishing and maintaining a farm or a podcast?

I think it's the high barrier to entry (long days, hard work) that prevent more people from starting a podcast

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Farming is far more demanding in startup capital, labor, skill, and hours.

Creating a podcast is easy. Creating a good podcast requires skill. Creating a successful podcast requires skill and luck.

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Farming badly and unsuccessfully is comparatively easy as well. Anyone can throw seeds into dirt and wait for rain.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Absolutely. My point was that success in farming is determined by startup capital, skill, long hours, and hard labor, whereas success in podcasting requires connections and luck over effort.

[–] SpruceBringsteen@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Unless you're famous, wildly charismatic, or have some very specialized knowledge I'm not sure how you break into the podcasting game. I mean you could have a podcast, but it wouldn't earn you a living.

Farming you could have microgreens or mushrooms in customer hands in a few weeks and that could be done from a closet after watching some youtube videos.

[–] NeuronautML@lemmy.ml 5 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I see farmers' protests almost every quarter about how they are struggling, how bad big farm competition is, how the equipment they need is prohibitively expensive and vendor locked, how any seeds that they need to be competitive are patented and exorbitant in costs. I didn't know farming was so easy.

Someone tell the farmers to watch youtube videos and clear out their closets. They clearly are doing something wrong.

[–] SpruceBringsteen@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

You're missing my point.

There's zero income if you're an unknown podcaster and there's zero demand for it.

Almost anyone can grow something and there's always demand for fresh produce.

I could work equally hard at either task and one would actually net returns for my work. This isn't saying farming is easy.

[–] NeuronautML@lemmy.ml 1 points 15 minutes ago* (last edited 8 minutes ago)

Yeah, but you said you could have a podcast, but it wouldn't earn you a living. The same way you could theoretically grow produce and it wouldn't earn you a living either.

With enough work you could make returns on a podcast too. Both podcasting and farming require lots of work to grow a network, to acquire equipment and to find customers and partners. In both, you require time to be trustworthy. Both of those things are part of the same entrepreneurial process.

I may concede that perhaps you can get a couple of bucks faster with a homegrown garden, but it is not as easy as you're saying. Your grocery store/restaurant will not buy random veggies from Joe nobody when they have suppliers already. They don't even know how safe is the food you're growing. You'd have to find specialized farmer's markets and you'd have to pay for a stall there, as well as all the grow lights and hydroponics setup to grow the produce. That's residual money, if money at all.

The people you see on youtube are probably making more money with youtube selling education than they are with their micro arugulas or whatever. Or maybe they're lucky to have friends with restaurants or stores already who are willing to take the risk on some random person with no store and no licenses selling food on the side. And it's a big risk, because some farms have sent people to the hospital by growing greens next to livestock and ended up contaminating everything with E. Coli. They probably won't boil greens, so you can guess why it's not a small risk to take. Sure, you can say, but I'm very clean, i have no livestock and my fertilizer is reputable, but without licenses, there is no proof and it's not like they are going to send someone to inspect your farm. And they're not even gonna hear you out unless you're coming with a price lower than the supplier that's growing an entire greenhouse full of microgreens for them.

[–] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yep, just that easy to earn a living through farming!

That comment 🤣

[–] SatyrSack 4 points 1 day ago

Fuckin' eggs come outta their arses!

[–] SpruceBringsteen@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm not saying working your way up to earning a living farming would be any way easy, but you could be earning something a lot sooner than a podcast if you're starting from zero in both scenarios.

[–] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

You could also just Uber and make 4x as much for less effort.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There’s a lot you can do in the closet after watching some YouTube videos.

[–] Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

I spent all of my teenage years in the closet and I did indeed watch YouTube as a kid

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Unless you're famous, wildly charismatic, or have some very specialized knowledge I'm not sure how you break into the podcasting game.

There are only two real options:

  1. Be part of an existing popular podcast. If you get to be a guest appearance and you're charismatic enough, you can get invited back more often until you're a regular. Get good enough to get your own following and then you can eventually break off and do your own thing with sponsorships from the get-go.

  2. Be famous for something else first. If you're a celebrity, author, streamer, YouTube personality, etc., you can start a podcast from nothing and have your sponsors and listeners already lined up.

[–] JacobCoffinWrites@slrpnk.net 3 points 20 hours ago
[–] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 9 points 1 day ago

I rarely listened to podcasts prior to farming. Now, that things are winding down, I'm so far behind in my queue

[–] NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] luciole@beehaw.org 2 points 1 day ago

Would you like a fairtrade latte with those organic soylent green?