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Donald Trump pledged to impose a 25% tariff on all products from Mexico and Canada on his first day in office, blaming them for failing to stop illegal drugs and immigration.

He also vowed to add a 10% tariff on Chinese goods until drug trafficking into the U.S. ceases.

Economists warn these tariffs could drive up consumer prices and inflation.

While violent crime has declined in recent years, Trump continues to link trade measures to border security and drug issues, echoing his first-term trade policies and immigration stance.

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[–] vala@lemmy.world 44 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It seems pretty obvious that the plan is to deliberately destroy the US economy.

[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Makes one wonder who would benefit from that…

[–] JordanZ@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Anyone with enough money to weather the shit storm. Look at how much money the top 1% made during Covid.

[–] Scolding7300@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

They'd just buy assets that others won't be able to afford and hoard more

[–] Zink@programming.dev 7 points 1 day ago

I think you misspelled “create buying opportunities for the oligarchs”

/s

[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago

And Canada's and Mexico's as well.

The orange asshole just doesn't gaf about anyone but himself.

He should be first on the BBQ menu.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 69 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm pretty sure most of the drugs coming in from Canada are in the possession of seniors who can't afford American medical care.

[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He doesn't give a fuck. He will avoid prison and that is all that matters to him.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Oh I know. I was just pointing that out considering how many of them voted for him.

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 7 points 1 day ago

(And most of the illegal immigrants are escaping USA)

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

I hope he does it. I really do. The quickest path to revolution is when people aren't just vibe struggling, it's when they're literally starving because nobody can pay for enough calories to sustain themselves. The faster we get to that point, the faster we can fix all of America's problems by deposing the oligarchs, rewriting the constitution to restore the guardrails of democracy and restructuring the government and the judiciary to serve the people and not corporations.

No balls, Trump, you fucking won't. You'll pussy out at the last minute or get bullied by another world leader with more gumption than you can muster.

[–] Kongar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 46 points 1 day ago (3 children)

He’s gonna get rid of the income tax too right? Right?

No? So everything costs more and farmers go out of business. Got it. But hey, you maga aholes got to own us libs. That sure was awesome! /s. Have fun being homeless you tools.

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago

As soon as things go south, they'll become the Biden tariffs that the damn, dirty liberals inflicted on America.

We've always been at war with Eurasia, Eastasia is our ally.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

This is late stage capitalism. The oligarchs are now in charge and they are going to loot every last penny that they can then run away laughing.

Musk announced that he was going to gut NASA which directly benefits SpaceX.

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[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 159 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

USA uses Tariffs.
It hurt itself in its confusion!

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 61 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

100% tariffs on China!
60% tarrifs on China!

....10% tarrifs on China?

Wait a minute. You mean I ran on bad policy and now I'm learning it was all bad ideas and people voted for me?

[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

From the article

levy an additional 10% tariff on top of existing tariffs on Chinese products coming into the United States.

He's not setting the Chinese tariffs at 10%, he's adding an extra 10%.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Additional 10% to what though. Right now we don't have tarrifs on all Chinese goods that I know of, so it would be 10 total unless he means an additional 10 on his last remark of 60 making it 70%? Wish the guy could actually write out a policy so companies can make plans on how best to function over the next x amount of years.

[–] harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So not a blanket tariffs on all Chinese imports then, just targeted ones. He had originally campaigned that he was going to roll back the CHIPS act, but hopefully he changed his mind.

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[–] admin@lemmyusa.com 152 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I can guarantee you my paycheck won't increase even a single percentage.

[–] satanmat@lemmy.world 106 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Nor will it bring manufacturing jobs back

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 70 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It will destabilize the western markets / economic/ financial systems.

Putin will be pleased.

[–] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Glad more people are becoming aware of the new Rasputin.

He has a substack, btw.

A couple previous comments I've made about him and the situations. One has his substack link.

https://lemmy.ca/comment/12638901

https://lemmy.ca/comment/12679885

No, but we're all going to pay for this shit.

I can't tell you how many fucking idiotic Trump supporters voted for him because they thought he'd make things cheaper and better for them...

The hard times are about to really start for Americans. Just about every single reputable economist and specialist warned about this.

Anything can happen, but the chances of anything good happening at this stage are very low. Prepare now for hard times.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Adieu US economy.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

GM stocks are down 8% today.

Congratulations to all the auto workers union members who voted for Trump.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 98 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

This:

Has become

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 79 points 2 days ago

Yah, that’ll fix inflation, you fucking stable genius.

What a shithole country.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 94 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Republicans will spend the next two years blaming the previous Democrat government for the problems that will happen .... then spend the next two years telling everyone that if they vote for the democrats the problems will get worse.

[–] Tujio@lemmy.world 78 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Every republican administration in my lifetime has left office in a recession.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago

I would agree with this, going back to Reagan. I technically saw the last few months of the Carter administration when I was born. I'm just not totally sure if Reagan left Bush Sr. a crappy economy, or if Bush Sr. managed to completely torpedo the economy in 4 years, allowing Clinton to perform "an economic miracle."

[–] Kalysta@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

And the mainstream media will do nothing to contradict this misinformation.

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[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 48 points 2 days ago (2 children)

2016 Trump: We're gonna build the wall 10ft higher!

2024 Trump: We're gonna make the price of everything 10% higher!?

[–] GreenSkree@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

2024 voters: InFlAtIoN tOo HiGh! TrUmP bEtTeR fOr ThE eCoNoMy!!1

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

10%? It'll be a hell of a lot more than that if he does all he's threatening to do.

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[–] Mog_fanatic@lemmy.world 37 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This will look just spectacular on my grocery bill. Prolly like 75% of my produce comes from Mexico right now.

[–] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 46 points 1 day ago

Not to worry. All the farms in the US will pick up the slack thanks to all that plentiful cheap migrant labor. Oh, wait…

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fentanyl, FYI, is used in hospitals and imported legally. I don't know what percentage of illegal supply is pilferage/theft from hospitals, but if fentanyl is bad, then forbid legal imports. There are a lot of media stories about healthcare professionals being caught stealing opioids. in 2020, DEA investigated 3600 drug theft cases at healthcare facilities.

OTOH, the typical overdose danger of fentanyl is using it accidentally, or it contaminating other opioids. Taking more of a weaker opioid provides the same high, afaik.

There are a lot of media stories about healthcare professionals being caught stealing opioids.

Like the new VP's mom, for example.

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 54 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Ah, yes. Canada, where all the people who have social services, healthcare, and general peace, without fear of daily shootings, try to escape from.

I wonder where all the drugs in Canada come from.(aside from weed. Everyone I know grows at home now)

Trump is not making America great. He's trying to destabilize the western economic system.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Trump hates NATO, The UN, and NAFTA. They were created after his father was born, so they must be bad ideas. That's why he loves tariffs so much, because his daddy sang their praises, because the rich tanking the economy in the 1920s and 1930s allowed Trump's grandfather to solidify his fortune, and allowed Trump's daddy to make his fortune, both by buying up everything they could on the cheap.

Depressions only inconvenience the rich, but allow them to get even more fabulously wealthy by buying up everything for pennies on the dollar. Depressions kill the poor, and harm what's left of the working middle class.

As a leftist I normally wouldn't even acknowledge that the middle class, aka, the petit bourgeois even exists as the poor and the rest of the workers are all one class, but in this one case it is useful to differentiate between the intentional harm that the ruling class is causing.

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[–] Chozo@fedia.io 43 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Okay, but are you going to stimulate US manufacturers to fill in the vacuum you'll create? Unless manufacturers have somewhere else to get their materials from, this will just result in shortages of everything.

We're gonna be seeing empty shelves in stores again. But there'll be no new virus to explain it this time.

[–] Kalysta@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago

Trump doesn’t understand this. Or if he does, he doesn’t care. He won’t starve. The poor will.

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[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The tariffs won't be effective on jan 20th. Certainly there will be specific ultimatums made to both countries, and it is irresponsible to set a tariff date, and then later "negotiate the specific threats/ultimatums" to reverse the tariffs. There are government agencies that need to prepare for policy.

Specific to Canada, there is a long history of free trade with comparable wages in auto sector, such that even some parts are shipped across the border for processing and shipped back. A conflict of interest with Musk, is that he doesn't mind destroying North American Auto sector, or big 3 anyway.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Specific to Canada, there is a long history of free trade with comparable wages in auto sector, such that even some parts are shipped across the border for processing and shipped back.

Trump himself signed the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (which replaced NAFTA) in his first term ensuring tariff free trade between the 3 nations. So Canada and Mexico are about to learn the lesson that trump's own signed legislation doesn't hold water.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

That ended up as pretty minimal changes to NAFTA after a giant fuss.

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